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Post by Darth_Awakened on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 8:34 am

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Very nice! So, wonder if he will turn out to be Lor San Tekka?

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At first glance I would say no . Their familiy name is Erso after all. (I guess)
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Post by Guest on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 9:32 am

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Wow! I've been thinking how cool it could be if he was Jyn's father! Oh I'm looking forward to this now! I hope their relationship plays a significant part and is part of who Jyn is. The father/daughter dynamic will be interesting as it's something that's never really been explored in a SW movie.

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Post by Darth_Awakened on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 10:26 am

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Wow! I've been thinking how cool it could be if he was Jyn's father! Oh I'm looking forward to this now! I hope their relationship plays a significant part and is part of who Jyn is. The father/daughter dynamic will be interesting as it's something that's never really been explored in a SW movie.
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Agreed.
I must admit I did not expect MM would end as Jyn s dad.
But I became more curious about the movie.
I am still baffled by that hooded figure in the emperoresque surroundings. Who is it?
Does not look like grandpa Vader, nor Palps (too tall and big for frail Palps at that stage)
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Post by Guest on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 10:43 am

@Darth_Awakened wrote:
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Wow! I've been thinking how cool it could be if he was Jyn's father! Oh I'm looking forward to this now! I hope their relationship plays a significant part and is part of who Jyn is. The father/daughter dynamic will be interesting as it's something that's never really been explored in a SW movie.
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Agreed.
I must admit I did not expect MM would end as Jyn s dad.
But I became more curious about the movie.
I am still baffled by that hooded figure in the emperoresque surroundings. Who is it?
Does not look like grandpa Vader, nor Palps (too tall and big for frail Palps at that stage)
@Darth_Awakened

Looking at them both now, I think they have similar facial structures, particularly around the cheekbones. I've just watched the trailer again and Mon Mothma said that Jyn was "on her own at the age of fifteen". Hmm... why I wonder? Did MM abandon both a young Jyn and her mother, before her mother died? (I hope not, sooo cliche!). Is MM a imperial officer/sympathizer, which Jyn hated and therefore left him? Or was Jyn just a teenage brat who "rebels" as she puts it? I can see it now though, Jyn has a chip on her shoulder when it comes to MM, and he'll either die protecting her from Vader or they'll have a tearful goodbye over a commlink as Jyn sends the Death Star plans to Princess Leia on a ship, before Darth Vader shoots it down. Either way, she'll forgive him for whatever conflict they have.

No idea who the hooded figure is though! Is it MM? Is it someone else? A completely new character? The mystery continues! 100% sure Vader is in it though, if MM's excited reaction is anything to go by in that Sky News interview. Hope he's ok btw, he sounded tired and ill Sad.

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Post by Darth_Awakened on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 11:10 am

AppleCrumble122 wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:
AppleCrumble122 wrote:
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Wow! I've been thinking how cool it could be if he was Jyn's father! Oh I'm looking forward to this now! I hope their relationship plays a significant part and is part of who Jyn is. The father/daughter dynamic will be interesting as it's something that's never really been explored in a SW movie.
@AppleCrumble122

Agreed.
I must admit I did not expect MM would end as Jyn s dad.
But I became more curious about the movie.
I am still baffled by that hooded figure in the emperoresque surroundings. Who is it?
Does not look like grandpa Vader, nor Palps (too tall and big for frail Palps at that stage)
@Darth_Awakened

Looking at them both now, I think they have similar facial structures, particularly around the cheekbones. I've just watched the trailer again and Mon Mothma said that Jyn was "on her own at the age of fifteen". Hmm... why I wonder? Did MM abandon both a young Jyn and her mother, before her mother died? (I hope not, sooo cliche!). Is MM a imperial officer/sympathizer, which Jyn hated and therefore left him? Or was Jyn just a teenage brat who "rebels" as she puts it? I can see it now though, Jyn has a chip on her shoulder when it comes to MM, and he'll either die protecting her from Vader or they'll have a tearful goodbye over a commlink as Jyn sends the Death Star plans to Princess Leia on a ship, before Darth Vader shoots it down. Either way, she'll forgive him for whatever conflict they have.

No idea who the hooded figure is though! Is it MM? Is it someone else? A completely new character? The mystery continues! 100% sure Vader is in it though, if MM's excited reaction is anything to go by in that Sky News interview. Hope he's ok btw, he sounded tired and ill Sad.
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Yeah. A lots of possibilities, somehow I am not so keen to yet another child/parent conflict in SW. I would leave it out of the anthology movies if I was one who decides. But well, nothing s perfect - on the other hand it can end well - everything is in the writings.
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Post by Guest on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 11:15 am

@Darth_Awakened wrote:
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Yeah. A lots of possibilities, somehow I am not so keen to yet another child/parent conflict in SW. I would leave it out of the anthology movies if I was one who decides. But well, nothing s perfect - on the other hand it can end well - everything is in the writings.
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I get you, but as it's a father/daughter conflict I'm glad it's in. Of course, it depends how well it's done. I wouldn't be all that interested if it was another father/son conflict. Not sure about the Han Solo movie, but I'm going to guess that the Boba Fett movie won't contain any parent/child conflict for obivous reasons Wink.

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Post by panki on Fri 29 Apr 2016, 1:03 pm

Mads Mikkelsen is playing a character called Galen and playing Jyn Erso's father... it just struck me that they might be bringing another EU story into canon.

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The rebel alliance Firebird symbol in the EU was originally the family crest of Galen Marek, an imperial and former apprentice of Vader who sacrificed his life to protect the founders of the rebel alliance... ...I'm wondering if Mads Mikkelsen's character sacrifices himself and helps his daughter escape with the plans of the death star....so this might lead to them adopting his family crest as their symbol, like in the EU? If I am right, they are possibly clubbing Dark Forces and the Force Unleashed and bringing them into canon.

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Post by EchoBase on Thu 05 May 2016, 10:17 pm

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/happy-revenge-of-the-5th-a-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-cameo-personally-verified/

"There were rumors that Hayden Christensen was training with Star Wars people but we were never able to place him at the location."

What? Shocked
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Post by Guest on Thu 05 May 2016, 10:58 pm

@panki wrote:Mads Mikkelsen is playing a character called Galen and playing Jyn Erso's father... it just struck me that they might be bringing another EU story into canon.

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The rebel alliance Firebird symbol in the EU was originally the family crest of Galen Marek, an imperial and former apprentice of Vader who sacrificed his life to protect the founders of the rebel alliance... ...I'm wondering if Mads Mikkelsen's character sacrifices himself and helps his daughter escape with the plans of the death star....so this might lead to them adopting his family crest as their symbol, like in the EU? If I am right, they are possibly clubbing Dark Forces and the Force Unleashed and bringing them into canon.
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I was thinking about that, bringing back some parts of EU but in different stories. I feel like they wanted clean start for ST, so they can bring back parts that work for them and ignore stories with Luke,Mara,Jacen...That way, they can tell a new story without it  becoming too obvious, but they had to trow away everything, not just some parts. Now they can re-canonize some parts and change others. They didn't have to trow away Old Republic era, it was so long ago and didn't affect the story..i think that's why they named it Legends and that's why Ahsoka says "There's always a bit of truth in legends". They already started bringing back some stuff from old canon

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Post by Guest on Fri 06 May 2016, 1:59 am

MSW are now sure that Darth Vader is in Rogue One. Apparently he gets injured and loses an arm (could he be the one in the bacta tank after all?) which

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allows Jyn and possibly the others to escape him.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/happy-revenge-of-the-5th-a-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-cameo-personally-verified/

Also there's a rumor somewhere that Mads Mikkelsen is

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an ex-Imperial technician and weapons specialist, who essentially created the Death Star and now feels guilty about it.

I've only heard that rumor about tumblr though, so I don't know how credible it is - http://nonibear11.tumblr.com/post/143913689230/starwarstheforceawakensdarthvaderrogueonesubmit

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Post by Sylvia Snow on Fri 06 May 2016, 5:16 pm



This is some interesting speculation here. Maybe Darth Vader will have a little cameo in Rogue One since the main antagonist seems to be the Mystery General in White uniforms
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Fri 06 May 2016, 5:46 pm

I am pretty much sure Vader will be in the movie.
Last weekend while I watched A New Hope again - the beginning of the movie and even the opening crawl are full of spoilers for RO.
And according to that I think that Vader will be definitely in it.
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Post by panki on Fri 06 May 2016, 7:18 pm

I also read a rumor that Vader's meditation chamber in the OT (the one where we see his scarred head from the back) is also making an appearance in Rogue One.... Smile

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Post by panki on Tue 17 May 2016, 3:52 pm

The names and details of characters have allegedly been leaked.....

The Rebels

1. Felicity Jones plays Jyn Erso, a gifted soldier and warrior.
2. Diego Luna plays Captain Cassian Andor, an officer in the Rebel Alliance
3. Jiang Wen plays Baze, a freelance assassin
4. Alan Tudyk plays the CGI character K-250, an Enforcer Droid and evidently an imperial model, but teams up with the rebels.
5. Riz Ahmed plays Bodhi, a rebel soldier.
6. Pao, an alien who is described as a "fierce warrior".
7. Donnie Yen plays Chirrut, a spiritual warrior.
8. Bistan, another alien who is described as a "fierce warrior".

Imperial

Ben Mendelssohn as Director Krennic, the military director of the Empire, to defend the Galactic Empire against the Rebels mission to steal the Death Star plans.

Source: Jedi Bibliothek from Edelweiss Catalogue Site

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Post by Darth_Awakened on Tue 17 May 2016, 5:20 pm

Thanks for posting it.
Director - Just sounds weird.
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Post by EchoBase on Tue 31 May 2016, 12:00 pm

This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
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Post by ZenBrainJam on Tue 31 May 2016, 12:25 pm

@EchoBase wrote:This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
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I have a bad feeling about this...
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Post by panki on Tue 31 May 2016, 1:17 pm

@ZenBrainJam wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
@EchoBase

I have a bad feeling about this...
@ZenBrainJam

I read a rumor somewhere that it didn't do well with the test audience so some scenes are being re-shot....doesn't bode well at all. No

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Post by vaderito on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:25 pm

Eh, Disney wants every SW movie to make TFA money. That won't happen. VIII may not make TFA money cause novelty wore off, anticipation won't replicate that of TFA (first SW in 10 years) and when people look back at TFA they don't think it was all that (too derivative). So drop is possible regardless of quality.

As for Rogue One, why did they think that a story about getting Death Star plans was a good idea for a movie? I'm sure R1 is going to make lots of money even if it was the worst movie (SW brand is that powerful) but seriously, who asked for that story?

besides, everywhere, and I mean everywhere, R1 has decidedly less discussion than TFA in comparable time or VIII for the matter. Nobody's hunting for R1 spoilers for example. There's chatter when trailer dropped and that's it. It isn't an ongoing process.
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Post by Mana on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:37 pm

@EchoBase wrote:This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
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Oh s***.....this sounds bad...and there's like what, 6 months until the movie is released?...damn that sucks.
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Post by vaderito on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:42 pm

@Mana wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
@EchoBase

Oh s***.....this sounds bad...and there's like what, 6 months until the movie is released?...damn that sucks.
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It just shows they need Episodes. Those SW Story spin-offs could go either way. None will bomb but they are not $2 billion material. Not even close.
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Post by Mana on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:45 pm

@vaderito wrote:
@Mana wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:This doesn't sound surprising, since there has been no real promo so far.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/
@EchoBase

Oh s***.....this sounds bad...and there's like what, 6 months until the movie is released?...damn that sucks.
@Mana

It just shows they need Episodes. Those SW Story spin-offs could go either way. None will bomb but they are not $2 billion material. Not even close.
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oh hell, I don't expect a movie about people trying to steal the plans to the death star to make 2 billion dollars. No way. I don't think I'll even see R1 in the cinema...I'm not surprised it didn't do well with test audiences and Disney execs....like you said before, did anyone even ask for that movie?
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Post by BastilaBey on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:50 pm

I'd wondered if somehow them making Rogue one had been a condition for GL selling to Disney? It was apparently something he'd had in the works for a while so maybe it was important to him that it still end up getting made. Because...yeah, where is the suspense. I will see it and the trailer looked cool but it's clear nobody in the fandom cares about it as much as episode VIII.
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:50 pm

The main problem with Rogue 1 storywise is the same one PT had.
Mayority of the targeted audience knows the end game. (In this case the plans of the DS being successfully sent to Leia - while the one of the main antagonists (Vader) going nutts while trying to get them back to safety hands of Empire).
So, the accent is on the execution of the story wich is way more complicated and challenging.- as it was in PT (where it failed on many levels).

Concerning money - It won t achieve TFA record that s fore sure, but I don t expect a total failure either.
Star Wars franchise is Star Wars franchise and it attracts automatically the audience.
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Post by vaderito on Tue 31 May 2016, 2:51 pm

Ponder this. When locked Reylo thread has over 1M views in 6 months of its existence (and it's been closed since March and still garnering views despite inactivity) but the most viewed open R1 thread from Mar 2015 barely passed 150,000 views at the same place...yikes. Nobody cares for R1. I don't think the movie's bad as much as that test audience couldn't care less. It isn't a sequel to TFA, why would we care? Plus that choice of story... Rolling Eyes

@Darth_Awakened Exactly. You know the endgame and how those plans were obtained isn't nearly as worthy of a sit-through as seeing how Anakin turned.
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