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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:29

It was good to go straight to Pablo because he would surely have something snarky to say, and he did. Three Tweets' worth of Rey Skywalker stomping (I'm guessing because Pablo also assumed it was okay to snarkily debunk again because the director himself did it). Not surprised at the damage control, but what can you do?
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Post by Xylo Ren on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:29

oh great. *eye roll* Ehem
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Post by IoJovi on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:29

Well honestly it still doesn't change anything we already know. Plus there's Pablo's tweet essentially confirming what JJ said earlier. I'm wondering if he wasn't expecting JJ to "clarify" it?
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Post by Helix on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:31

I guess Disney and Lucasfilm still wants their money. Ah well.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:31

JJ is backpedaling or clarifying
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Post by Guest on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:32

@Helix wrote:I guess Disney and Lucasfilm still wants their money. Ah well.
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I imagine they're not gonna be happy with these turn of events. No wonder JJ tried to "clarify" things.

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Post by IoJovi on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:33

Still though, can I express my annoyance at this? Why say anything at all if you're going to backpedal?
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Post by Xylo Ren on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:33

Doesn't discover them? That doesn't even make sense. She doesn't remember who they are? What they look like?

And still, doesn't she discover Luke at the end of VII? Doesn't this still make the statement true?
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Post by AnneNeville on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:34

@spacebaby45678 wrote:JJ is backpedaling or clarifying
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It's a pretty dumb and meaningless statement, if that's his clarification. He says they are in her world. Well, what world would they be in other than that? A parallel one?
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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by vaderito on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:35

Guys, JJ was caught off guard and blurted out the truth. It went viral within minutes. Pablo confirmed it. They pulled themselves together and came up with a lame retraction. This will buy rey Skywalker some time but damage is done. They can't be sure. JJ wasn't misquoted. He's caught on a video.
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Post by CienaRee on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:36

@vaderito wrote:
@AnneNeville wrote:Sigh: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/15/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abrams-rey-parents

UPDATE: After the Q&A, EW caught up with J.J. Abrams and he clarified his comments. The director says he was only trying to point out that The Force Awakens builds up the mystery of Rey’s parents without resolving it. “What I meant was that she doesn’t discover them in Episode VII. Not that they may not already be in her world,” Abrams said.
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LOL, he said on a video "they are not in Episode VII" and Pablo pretty much confirmed it with his snarky tweet. This is just lame attempt at damage control.
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Exactly!"Rey's parents don't appear in TFA" then later "They're in her world but she hasn't discovered them yet".If that's not damage control I don't know what it is.If he meant to say they were in her world but she hasn't discovered them he would have said it.Don't let that roll you or discourage you.Abrams realized he screwed up by revealing such an important information so he tried glossing it over but he said it people "Rey's parents don't appear in TFA".There's not another female that's Leia's age that could be her mother in TFA and I think it's clear Luke is not Rey's father.Also notice that he used the word discover yet Rey meets Luke in TFA.Him doing damage control makes me even more convinced that's not Khan 2.0 situation.
Pablo also compared theories about who aren't us to those about who Snoke is and flat out said Kylo is the Skywalker in TFA and that coupled with Faisy's interview about who area is doesn't matter I think it's clear she's not a Skwyalker but if the Rey Skwyalker  camp wants to cling to that be my guess.


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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:39

JJ can't take it back. CONTINUES my Reylo party

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Post by IoJovi on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:40

@CienaRee I think you're right. My heart sank when I first read that retraction, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. JJ slipped and now he's in DC mode.

Pablo's following tweets confirm this - I think he thought he had the go ahead to talk about Kylo being the last one.

It's all good guys!!!
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Post by vaderito on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:41

What is more sincere, a comment off guard or a damage control statement devised with a team of PR specialists? C'mon. He blew it and he knows it. And this attempt to retract it just confirms that he blew it.
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Post by Guest on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:44

@vaderito wrote:What is more sincere, a comment off guard or a damage control statement devised with a team of PR specialists? C'mon. He blew it and he knows it. And this attempt to retract it just confirms that he blew it.
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Yep! All the excitement drained from me when I first read his statement, but it's pretty clear that he's realised he made a big mistake by revealing on of the film's biggest "mysteries". And with that I'm leaving the fallout and party to you guys.

Off to bed for real now! Have fun everyone! Very Happy

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Post by Gemini on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:47

I know his statement is damage control but im just p***** now..sorry..Im angry at him, he should have just left it be.


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Post by IoJovi on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:49

I get it Gemini. I feel the same way. I know in my heart of hearts she's not a Skywalker by blood but that 3 hours worth of confirmation was damn nice. I don't want to let that go...
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Post by vaderito on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:51

@Gemini wrote:I know his statement is damage control but im just p***** now..sorry..Im angry at him, he should have just left it be.
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If he left it be than you should be suspicious. This is an actual confirmation. he made a slip at the obscure event. Likely was hoping would go unnoticed. It didn't. PH wasn't in the loop so he went ahead with his tweets that pretty much said "yep". Than when reactions kicked in, JJ came up with really lame statement that paraphrases his sincere answer CAUGHT ON CAMERA. He's now putting a spin on something that had no spin but was straight up "They are not in TFA" no "from certain POV" but straight up.  He didn't want to lie to that kid.
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Post by MoonFyre on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:52

It doesn't matter now that JJ's trying to backtrack. I'm not really that surprised, it's one of the biggest red herrings that needs to be resolved in the movie alone. But he got caught, then Pablo supported it. Rey Skywalker supporters will cling to denial as long as they can but it won't last. And they know it. Wink

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:52

@Gemini wrote:I know his statement is damage control but im just p***** now..sorry..Im angry at him, he should have just left it be.
@Gemini

No no, don't be! Gaffes are gifts. Freudian slips. peaks into the subconscious mind of humans. These are the moments when criminals reveal the crime!! Lol.
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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by Xylo Ren on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:53

*sighs* Oh well. Back to logic, dialogue, tropes, cinematography, music, and narrative analysis to prove our theories right.
(we're still afloat)


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Post by CienaRee on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:54

You know,I'm not angry right now is I'm just laughing at Rey Skwyalker being accidentally debunked 2 years before episode 8 being released.
Seriously JJ's damage control comment makes no sense like Rey doesn't discover her parents in episode 7 yet they maybe in her world even though there wasn't any female character in the appropriate age to be Rey's mom and she diverted Luke at the end of the episode.Oh,JJ thanks for trying but you aren't fooling us,You said it (sorry for the incorrect paraphrasing )"Rey's parents don't appear in episode 7 so I can't say more but that's something Rey thinks about".That debunks area Skwyalker with the power of 10000 suns.
They're getting into dangerous territory here thing,fan don't like to be followed and this damage control might make things worse than if they had just left it alone..


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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by Gemini on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:57

eh I've just had enough of thi at the moment lol. It just felt too good to be true..I still believe the first statement but im p*****...it will go in a few hours lol
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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by SoloSideCousin on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:58

@spacebaby45678 wrote:
@Gemini wrote:I know his statement is damage control but im just p***** now..sorry..Im angry at him, he should have just left it be.
@Gemini

No no, don't be! Gaffes are gifts. Freudian slips. peaks into the subconscious mind of humans. These are the moments when criminals reveal the crime!! Lol.
@spacebaby45678

In the law it's called an "Excited Utterance".  It's considered so credible in the American Federal Rules of Evidence that is allowed to be an exception to the hearsay prohibition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_utterance

@vaderito and @spacebaby45678 are right.  He didn't want to lie to a kid.  If this was a legal thing, this would be top notch evidence.
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Re: JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

Post by AnneNeville on Sat 16 Apr 2016 - 5:58

@Gemini wrote:I know his statement is damage control but im just p***** now..sorry..Im angry at him, he should have just left it be.
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I don't know. Maybe he didn't really have an option legally.
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