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Post by snufkin on Sat 12 May 2018, 1:12 am

Huh, you know what's also interesting?

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Han hides in a recruitment center where he joins the Imperial army to leave Corellia. He says his name is just "Han" and that he's alone...Imperial guard gives him the last name "Solo"

Remember awhile back the uproar over a comment (can't remember if it was a rumor or something in an article)

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...how it would turn out that his name wasn't Han Solo? Sounds like it was about this detail, that his last name was assigned to him as an Imperial Recruit and he kept it. Maybe he did or didn't ever have another last name but that name is one he kept from that experience, as a young man

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Also interesting that Rey only calls herself by that name, whether or not she even remembers what her family name is. Han must have responded to that with "just Rey" as part of his moment of recognition/empathy with her. And the moment of her telling him that's her name reminding him of that own moment (being nameless) being deja vu for him, it's entirely possible that Rey will become his daughter-in-law, the mother of his grandchildren, and the woman who saved his family

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With all the callbacks to Han in the ST and "too much of his father in him" for Ben along with the "curse" of the Skywalker lineage, wonder if they're setting up Ben to carry that name and its legacy forward after the ST. Quite possibly he and Rey will form a new family and have children who carry this name forward as both moving forward into new stories while honoring the past

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For all the "what a dumb title!" and Red Solo cup jokes, that's why the film's called Solo. Also notice how Snoke sneeringly calls Ben “Young Solo” and in the confrontation with Rey, she makes a point of telling him, “you underestimate Ben Solo.” There’s a repetition of the name/theme between these two films and that one detail is critical.
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Post by rawpowah on Sat 12 May 2018, 4:15 am

@snufkin

Spoiler:
The Skywalker Saga ends.... and the Solo saga begins.
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Post by AceofWands on Sat 12 May 2018, 9:13 am

Uhm, reading the spoilers, it sounds like a sort of boring movie. It seems that the characters run here, run there, do this, do that, and what's the point? Maybe the point is "how Han learned not to trust anyone", but that's boring.

I don't know, maybe watching it I'll have a different impression. Looking forward to Netflix. Not feeling it to do to the cinema. I'm sure Disney won't miss one ticket.
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Sat 12 May 2018, 9:33 am

@rawpowah wrote:@snufkin

Spoiler:
The Skywalker Saga ends.... and the Solo saga begins.
@rawpowah

I've been thinking that's the way it's going to go for a while. All this Solo stuff seems to be providing more evidence of that.
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Post by vaderito on Sat 12 May 2018, 10:03 am

this movie sounds like a total filler.
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Post by Night Huntress on Sat 12 May 2018, 10:18 am

I think it's a lighthearted "fun" movie and that's totally ok. I'm not really emotionally invested but I'm looking forward seeing it just like any other good movie that got me interested.

CT from the Knights of Rant mentioned Ben should've been named "Organa" - I'm curious what she meant with that comment. I have a theory but I want to see the movie first Cool
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Post by IoJovi on Sat 12 May 2018, 10:39 am

@snufkin wrote:Huh, you know what's also interesting?

Spoiler:
Han hides in a recruitment center where he joins the Imperial army to leave Corellia. He says his name is just "Han" and that he's alone...Imperial guard gives him the last name "Solo"

Remember awhile back the uproar over a comment (can't remember if it was a rumor or something in an article)

1.
Spoiler:
...how it would turn out that his name wasn't Han Solo? Sounds like it was about this detail, that his last name was assigned to him as an Imperial Recruit and he kept it. Maybe he did or didn't ever have another last name but that name is one he kept from that experience, as a young man

2.
Spoiler:
Also interesting that Rey only calls herself by that name, whether or not she even remembers what her family name is. Han must have responded to that with "just Rey" as part of his moment of recognition/empathy with her. And the moment of her telling him that's her name reminding him of that own moment (being nameless) being deja vu for him, it's entirely possible that Rey will become his daughter-in-law, the mother of his grandchildren, and the woman who saved his family

3.
Spoiler:
With all the callbacks to Han in the ST and "too much of his father in him" for Ben along with the "curse" of the Skywalker lineage, wonder if they're setting up Ben to carry that name and its legacy forward after the ST. Quite possibly he and Rey will form a new family and have children who carry this name forward as both moving forward into new stories while honoring the past

4.
Spoiler:
For all the "what a dumb title!" and Red Solo cup jokes, that's why the film's called Solo. Also notice how Snoke sneeringly calls Ben “Young Solo” and in the confrontation with Rey, she makes a point of telling him, “you underestimate Ben Solo.” There’s a repetition of the name/theme between these two films and that one detail is critical.
@snufkin

Spoiler:
This is an absolutely brialliant post. Given that this movie is left open ended leaving room for a sequel, it’s clear they’re making Han (and the Solo name) just as important as Luke and Leia and their subsequent lineage. I’m remembering quotes from various LF officials stating IX would conclude the end of the Skywalker saga and now I’m laughing at how the majority of fandom has all been played with that statement. Laughing

I’m also loving the Ben Solo and Reylo parallels I’m seeing in these spoilers. I don’t find this to be filler at all.
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Post by snufkin on Sat 12 May 2018, 11:07 am

@rawpowah @SoloSideCousin @IoJovi Found it!

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The Internet Is Having a Ball Trying to Guess Han Solo's Real Name
While speaking at the University of Southern California Thursday, CEO Bob Iger alluded to the alias while discussing the upcoming Han Solo spinoff. “[The film] picks up with Han Solo when he was 18 years old and takes him through when he was 24,” he said. “There are a few significant things that happen in Han Solo’s life, like acquiring a certain vehicle and meeting a certain Wookiee that will happen in this film. But you will also discover how he got his name.”


I can see how "ooh we'll throw in these recognizable characters to please the fanboys and completists" is filler because lbr, Rogue One was 100% filler meant to do that. But names and that specific name, are very important in the new films. Although I think my favorite fanboy theory about Kasdan's comment that the story here is what Han flashes back to when he meets Rey and offers to help her because he was in the same position she's in is that it's about thinking that Rey and Finn and like Luke and him. Which bless their hearts, lol nope it ain't that. He sees Rey as being like him and Qi'ra trying to escape Correila and running afoul of the Imperials. He's more than aware of what can go wrong in that situation for somebody young and vulnerable and also what happened to him with Beckett. That's why he tries to get her to stay with him and Chewie, which oddly enough makes both he and Rey similar -trying to do for others what nobody did for them.

And I think @rawpowah has the best guess what's behind those comments - they may be wrapping up the stories of a special cursed family of space wizards, but there may well be more of these 'young Solo' movies (which given that there's only a 5 year gap in between the first movie and this one from the age given for him), that's not a whole lot of stories to cover. Unless they're planning on exploring his sad life as a geriatric smuggler. But there may well be future movies about any potential offspring his idiot son has if he survives the ST and makes things up to his space girlfriend.

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Post by rawpowah on Sat 12 May 2018, 11:13 am

@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@rawpowah wrote:@snufkin

Spoiler:
The Skywalker Saga ends.... and the Solo saga begins.
@rawpowah

I've been thinking that's the way it's going to go for a while. All this Solo stuff seems to be providing more evidence of that.
@SoloSideCousin

Yeah this is what I've been thinking since I saw TLJ (and how much Ben's family ties were mentioned). Disney wants their own family saga and the Solo name is a mixture of both the past (Skywalker ties) and the future. It's the ideal cash cow.

And the only one who can continue that saga in the future is Ben Laughing. Bless his heart Laughing

Otherwise you're just stuck churning out young Han Solo movies, which will sell well, but are restrictive in terms of timeline.

I can only hope IX wraps up well for Reylo and we get closure, before LF announces the inevitable sequels with their kids. Laughing

@snufkin Just saw your comment after I posted mine and I totally agree. LF should also give us young Ben Solo movies while they're at it Laughing. Alden can play young dad Han and LF can cast a young Leia Laughing.
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Post by californiagirl on Sat 12 May 2018, 11:55 am

@AceofWands Unfortunately, SW isn't on much in the way of streaming. I can't even rent any of the movies on Amazon. I did see some on an airplane once. Plus most of Disney's content is leaving Netflix next year for their own service.

I didn't read the really long, full movie spoiler, but I'm not surprised if it's filler-ish. It's meant to be a big popcorn summer blockbuster tentpole action movie, with some nostagic stuff audiences recognize, not some pivotal centerpiece of the SW tapestry. Sounds like they were able to tie it into the big SW EU story relatively well.

I'm just glad it's not a total trainwreck like many feared it could be. There have been too many recent examples of studios that do massive reshoots to change the movie's creative direction, then awkwardly edit the two together to make it by the given release date (Suicide Squad, Fant4stic, Justice League, even RO to an extent). I'm so glad they pushed the release of IX.
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Sat 12 May 2018, 3:51 pm

@rawpowah wrote:
@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@rawpowah wrote:@snufkin

Spoiler:
The Skywalker Saga ends.... and the Solo saga begins.
@rawpowah

I've been thinking that's the way it's going to go for a while. All this Solo stuff seems to be providing more evidence of that.
@SoloSideCousin

Yeah this is what I've been thinking since I saw TLJ (and how much Ben's family ties were mentioned). Disney wants their own family saga and the Solo name is a mixture of both the past (Skywalker ties) and the future. It's the ideal cash cow.

And the only one who can continue that saga in the future is Ben Laughing. Bless his heart Laughing

Otherwise you're just stuck churning out young Han Solo movies, which will sell well, but are restrictive in terms of timeline.

I can only hope IX wraps up well for Reylo and we get closure, before LF announces the inevitable sequels with their kids. Laughing

@snufkin Just saw your comment after I posted mine and I totally agree. LF should also give us young Ben Solo movies while they're at it Laughing. Alden can play young dad Han and LF can cast a young Leia Laughing.
@rawpowah

Exactly! The Skywalkers are Lucas's, but the Solos will belong to Disney.

Ben will break the curse and move on as a Solo.
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Post by AceofWands on Sat 12 May 2018, 5:45 pm

@californiagirl wrote:@AceofWands Unfortunately, SW isn't on much in the way of streaming. I can't even rent any of the movies on Amazon. I did see some on an airplane once. Plus most of Disney's content is leaving Netflix next year for their own service.

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Too bad. I guess I'll never see Solo then. Not sure I'm missing much.

Actually I do feel cheated in watching movies come out as Star Wars and without any soul. I don't need the force, but I need a bit more brain, more symbolism, more something.

I have nothing against mindless summer popcorn movies, but that ain't Star Wars. I guess in fantasy and science fiction, for some reason, I always expect a bit more depth. SW is both.

Edit to add: about Han's last name... What if they find out he is...SKYWALKER!!! Not as a relative, but as a very common last name. Problems solved.

Now seriously, I don't think we'll move on to the Solo saga. Maybe Han doesn't have a last name, meaning that his son will get Leia's last name... Which solves a lot of problems for the Skywalker-insistent folks.
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Post by rawpowah on Sat 12 May 2018, 6:47 pm

@AceofWands You can watch the movie on HBO, if you have it. Mine is actually showing AOTC pretty soon.
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Post by californiagirl on Sat 12 May 2018, 7:40 pm

@rawpowah wrote:LF should also give us young Ben Solo movies while they're at it Laughing. Alden can play young dad Han and LF can cast a young Leia Laughing.
@rawpowah

I did not realize how much I want Alden to play young Han with little Ben in a flashback sequence in IX until now. Add that to my ever-growing SW wish list.
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Post by BB-Rey on Sat 12 May 2018, 8:50 pm





So, this happened. Smile

As well as this little surprise from Harrison during one of Aiden's interviews with Entertainment Tonight.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BisrpQFh82F/
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Post by californiagirl on Sun 13 May 2018, 2:59 am

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Post by rawpowah on Sun 13 May 2018, 3:41 am

Sounds like fanservice for all the annoying fanboys who hated TLJ because their Snoke theories got debunked. Rolling Eyes
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Post by californiagirl on Sun 13 May 2018, 11:04 am

OMG

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Post by IoJovi on Sun 13 May 2018, 12:10 pm

@californiagirl wrote:OMG

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Sad. I know this is in tongue and cheek but it makes me so sad!!! Laughing

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Post by californiagirl on Mon 14 May 2018, 1:42 pm

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Post by californiagirl on Mon 14 May 2018, 5:15 pm

I've been having way too much fun with Twitter screenshots once I discovered that was a thing one could do.

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Post by californiagirl on Tue 15 May 2018, 11:54 am

More Cannes fun




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Post by Saracene on Tue 15 May 2018, 11:26 pm

Reading Solo reviews, I think I'll sit this one out and maybe watch it on a long international flight or something. Doesn't sound bad, but nothing to get excited about either.

Could be a nice harmless fandom cleanser after all the TLJ wars, lol.
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Post by californiagirl on Wed 16 May 2018, 12:21 am

@Saracene wrote:Reading Solo reviews, I think I'll sit this one out and maybe watch it on a long international flight or something. Doesn't sound bad, but nothing to get excited about either.

Could be a nice harmless fandom cleanser after all the TLJ wars, lol.
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It looks like a mostly-harmless piece of mostly-fluff, but knowing SW fans, I'm sure it will rip fandom the shreds yet again. Not my Han Solo and all that, or maybe he does things that some think are out of character, or answers questions in a way fans don't like, and Disney is driving SW into the ground and on and on.... Honestly, SW fans are really predictable, but think they are such perceptive edgelords. It's a trip with these people.
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