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Post by snufkin on Sun 15 Oct 2017, 3:56 pm

Whether or not there’s PDA or she goes to Space Prom with him, the aesthetics and themes of that relationship are straight out of the Romantic movement. Right down to the Byronic character and idealistic young female protagonist learning a mysterious family secret and coming of age.
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Post by vaderito on Sun 15 Oct 2017, 4:04 pm

@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
This is so good with the context of #rawpower. My favourite lightsaber battle. A+, JJ.
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yeah, it was actually meaningful instead of just an action piece cause SW needs them. Love it.
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

Post by AceofWands on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 2:49 pm

I'm bored and I'm sick of stupid theories as to why Reylo won't happen and why it won't be romantic. And no, "because I want to manage my expectations" is not a reason why it won't be romantic. I'm pretty sure LF is not worrying about your expectations.

So I have a few suggestions:

- Rey and Kylo are so powerful that they'll become pure light at the end of 9. It's not romantic cause they become light. That's why Rey.

- Rey and Kylo are literally 2 halves of a protagonist. They are part of an experiment to split a person's consciousness in two. The second part was given to Rey. In the end the full Reylo personality will be reunited and we'll have one androgynous, hermaprodite, assexual being.

- Rey is going to hook up with Luke and Kylo will hook up with Poe. While I don't have evidence for Ruke (unfortunately), Poe has been looking too good lately. Plus he says he is the spark that will light the fire... Who has fire on the background when extendind his hand? Kylo. He's extending his hand to Poe. So those are the couples.

- Kylo and Rey will find out they are both Vader's kids. Han couldn't have kids, so they did artificial insemination. An evil imperial used Vader's sperm. Rey will also realize she was part of a similar program. They'll find out that they are siblings (cause it totally has not been done in SW)  and rule the galaxy as sibling and sibling.

- Rey or Kylo will die. (but if it's romantic and unfulfilled I still consider it romantic). If Kylo dies, the Skywalker line will continue with artificial insemination or cloning.

- Rey and Kylo will become buddies, their story is not important. The real story of the SW will be the amazing revelation that Snoke is Plagueis, Jar Jar and Mace Windu, and that they are in fact reincarnations of the same evil being who dominates the galaxy. That's the real plot of the ST, and Rey and Kylo is fluff. They will become only buddies because... I still can't nail this, though.

- Rey is Snoke, and that's a big twist. Rey/snoke is killed in Episode 9.

- And yeah, I'm done here.

Personally other than Rey Solo or Rey Skywalker, non romantic Reylo makes no sense.

Can Reylo be unfulfilled? Sure.
Can Reylo  be tragic? Sure.
Can Reylo be non romantic? Only if they retconned it, cause the romantic elements are in TFA and in TLJ .

I was going to reply to the other thread "what if Reylo doesn't happen?" but I think that thread is misplaced.

Every single anti-Reylo theory relies on headcanon that has been debunked over a year ago. Every single one. C'mon, people, let's get creative!
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

Post by DarthRen on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 3:22 pm

@AceofWands

The moment when they locked their lightsabers and had what I can only describe as "a force sex" or as would Daisy say "finding the Force or whatever", combined with choker shots and fairytale tropes popping out everywhere. Yeah, I don't see them personally as non-romantic. Especially since both of them WANT to belong to someone, if you have sucha deep bond that you can read your other halves thoughts, wishes, dream and fears. Famial love ain't bringing Ben back,romantic love will.

I always tell my friends who are either against it or meh towards it. So considering all these things. Which other person can offer this much? Answer is pretty clear ... NOBODY ELSE.

Not like non-romantic relationships are bad or unworthy .. they are beautiful, can offer a lot, but this not the story we see here. Just far too much romantic elements for it, they could've avoid it, but they did it anyway. Unless Rey suddenly can't fell in love with him for whatever reasons.

In my mind the only questions is "When" not "If" and whether they get to live, mostly Kylo. I can't honestly imagine Rey dying.


I never thought that I'd want KyloxPoe in my life until your comment. Their hair game is on point ...  I can only imagine how beautiful their kids would be. Shall we call it DameRen?
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

Post by SheLitAFire on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 3:35 pm

@snufkin wrote:Whether or not there’s PDA or she goes to Space Prom with him , the aesthetics and themes of that relationship are straight out of the Romantic movement.
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I read that as "space porn" at first Embarassed Twisted Evil lol
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Post by Maria Antonietta on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 4:26 pm

@SheLitAFire wrote:
@snufkin wrote:Whether or not there’s PDA or she goes to Space Prom with him , the aesthetics and themes of that relationship are straight out of the Romantic movement.
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I read that as "space porn" at first Embarassed Twisted Evil lol
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

Post by snufkin on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 4:59 pm

@SheLitaFire - Ha! Well Carrie Fisher joked frequently about Star Wars porn, including around the timeline when she had signed on with JJ to do TFA. And I'm pretty sure given their relationship and one his responses to her "Did I do Princess Leia?" line, Craig Ferguson had something going on with her for awhile



"I wanted to bring you a Star Wars porn. There is such a thing! And you can just imagine what the Darkside is. And the Force, it's so different! ANd when the Force is with you, you really feel it. And you need lubricant."

And from the great Rolling Stone interview she did for Empire Strikes Back:

Carrie Fisher wrote:The talk shifts to Leia's romance with Han Solo in Empire, and Carrie slyly speculates that "if she had her wits about her, she would have fallen for the big, strong Wookie. She's not that experienced, but because she's a princess, she would have some kind of problem with whoever she dated. Like, 'She can't marry out of her solar system' or something."

Her notion of an X-rated sequel to Empire makes her howl with laughter.

"Nude scenes with the robots!" she envisions. "They could do anything. And Darth Vader having an affair, making the princess do awful, kinky things. Then afterward, you could shoot a scene where you see her sleeping contently and have him lying there, smoking a cigarette."

And she did tell Daisy Ridley, "I'm looking forward to your space kiss."
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

Post by ISeeAnIsland on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 7:10 pm

Mod note: Folks, this thread is veering off on a tangent. Please keep in mind that this thread was set up to discuss possible non-romantic connections between Rey and Kylo Ren.
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Post by DeeBee on Sat 28 Oct 2017, 8:31 pm

@AceofWands wrote:I'm bored and I'm sick of stupid theories as to why Reylo won't happen and why it won't be romantic. And no, "because I want to manage my expectations" is not a reason why it won't be romantic. I'm pretty sure LF is not worrying about your expectations.

So I have a few suggestions:

- Rey and Kylo are so powerful that they'll become pure light at the end of 9. It's not romantic cause they become light. That's why Rey.

- Rey and Kylo are literally 2 halves of a protagonist. They are part of an experiment to split a person's consciousness in two. The second part was given to Rey. In the end the full Reylo personality will be reunited and we'll have one androgynous, hermaprodite, assexual being.

- Rey is going to hook up with Luke and Kylo will hook up with Poe. While I don't have evidence for Ruke (unfortunately), Poe has been looking too good lately. Plus he says he is the spark that will light the fire... Who has fire on the background when extendind his hand? Kylo. He's extending his hand to Poe. So those are the couples.

- Kylo and Rey will find out they are both Vader's kids. Han couldn't have kids, so they did artificial insemination. An evil imperial used Vader's sperm. Rey will also realize she was part of a similar program. They'll find out that they are siblings (cause it totally has not been done in SW)  and rule the galaxy as sibling and sibling.

- Rey or Kylo will die. (but if it's romantic and unfulfilled I still consider it romantic). If Kylo dies, the Skywalker line will continue with artificial insemination or cloning.

- Rey and Kylo will become buddies, their story is not important. The real story of the SW will be the amazing revelation that Snoke is Plagueis, Jar Jar and Mace Windu, and that they are in fact reincarnations of the same evil being who dominates the galaxy. That's the real plot of the ST, and Rey and Kylo is fluff. They will become only buddies because... I still can't nail this, though.

- Rey is Snoke, and that's a big twist. Rey/snoke is killed in Episode 9.

- And yeah, I'm done here.

Personally other than Rey Solo or Rey Skywalker, non romantic Reylo makes no sense.

Can Reylo be unfulfilled? Sure.
Can Reylo  be tragic? Sure.
Can Reylo be non romantic? Only if they retconned it, cause the romantic elements are in TFA and in TLJ .

I was going to reply to the other thread "what if Reylo doesn't happen?" but I think that thread is misplaced.

Every single anti-Reylo theory relies on headcanon that has been debunked over a year ago. Every single one. C'mon, people, let's get creative!
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@AceofWands this is hilarious! thanks for the laugh!!! Smile It's the best way to deal with the waiting... Smile
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Re: The Potentially Non-Romantic Connection Between Kylo Ren and Rey

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We wanted to discuss some upcoming changes in this thread that are not related to any current events or situations.

Over the past months we have received complaints from people who have felt that they are not able to express their opinions if they go against what the majority feels. For that reason we are designating this thread as one of a few "safe zones" where people should be able to express their fears and "unpopular" opinions freely.

It is equally true that perceived negativity has caused some of our members to feel frustrated and demoralized in the past, so we will continue highlighting the importance of context/place when sharing content that can be perceived as upsetting by other users.

We feel that a good compromise is to have clearly designated areas for expressing fears/doubts/negative views freely, while protecting the general threads and overall spirit of the forum from overly pessimistic and demoralizing discourse that may make the community a place to avoid.

With that in mind, we'd like to emphasize the following:

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