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Post by motherofpearl1 on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 10:45 am

Although its Rey's story it doesn't mean John and Kylo aren't important - lets face it the OT was about the Skywalkers but Han Solo was every bit as important as the others.
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Post by Guest on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 10:47 am

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:Annnnnd...Pablo backpedals a bit on his dislike of TFA:

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ETA: And further down the tweet string, Pablo clarifies that it's Han that he didn't care for in TFA--that he thought he crowded out the new leads.
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Hilarious. It's clear that Pablo never thought JJ would come back and is now trying to cover his a**.

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 10:49 am

@vaderito wrote:
@motherofpearl1 wrote:Just found this courtesy of thereylovoid:
http://the-reylo-void.tumblr.com/
Yet more proof of what a joy John Boyega is!
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certain places on the Internet need this pinned on every page of their thread.
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Yes.
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:19 am

Re: Han Solo won't be in 9...

So... is anyone else excited this ups the probability of kid!Ben flashbacks? Because it's either that or Force ghost!Han in TLJ, and last I checked Han does not know how to do that.

Okay. He totally could have corrected this person. Han in TLJ confirmed.

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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:30 am

@MeadowofAshes

Didn't Rian say that Han has a presence in 8? I figured it would be metaphorical, like his death looming over everyone, but he could appear in a flashback? I didn't think Ford was filming anything for 8, though.
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:32 am

@Cowgirlsamurai wrote:@MeadowofAshes

Didn't Rian say that Han has a presence in 8? I figured it would be metaphorical, like his death looming over everyone, but he could appear in a flashback? I didn't think Ford was filming anything for 8, though.
@Cowgirlsamurai Ford filming might have been kept top secret, in studio.


[size=38]Rian did say he'd be a presence, but I thought it was more metaphorical as well. This is exciting! Well... maybe not for Pablo Laughing, but I doubt Han will overshadow anyone in a flashback.
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Post by vaderito on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:33 am

Agreed with @MeadowofAshes I think that Pablo meant it more as a major presence/role rather than not in the movie at all (flashback, for example). Cause the context was about his getting screen time at the expense of new leads so I read his comment that he won't be in IX in that capacity.
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Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:36 am

"and the scene where he dies"

"and the scene where he dies"

Good Lord, Pabs. Laughing

Well, that's a change, I suppose... perhaps he's been told to tone down his dislike of the son, so he's transferring it to the father instead. Razz
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:42 am

@Darth Dingbat wrote:"and the scene where he dies"

"and the scene where he dies"

Good Lord, Pabs. Laughing

Well, that's a change, I suppose... perhaps he's been told to tone down his dislike of the son, so he's transferring it to the father instead. Razz
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I gave up trying to make heads or tails of this a long time ago... Laughing

It's useless, and only results at me screaming at Twitter...

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Post by Darth_Awakened on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:49 am

@Darth Dingbat wrote:"and the scene where he dies"

"and the scene where he dies"

Good Lord, Pabs. Laughing

Well, that's a change, I suppose... perhaps he's been told to tone down his dislike of the son, so he's transferring it to the father instead. Razz
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I remember though Pablo complaining about Han being a drug dealer.

So, as I said: A serious problem with the Solo boys has been detected.
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Post by Rei of Sunshine on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 11:53 am

Pablo is Leia confirmed.

Who else would be as pissed off at the father and the son than the wife and mother herself? Lol.
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Post by Acritiqua on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:02 pm

@vaderito wrote:Han upstaged some characters. That's due to writing. Write characters better and they won't be upstaged, very simple. But if you have this old geezer quip quotable lines while characters he's baby-sitting are only reacting to that and geeking out, what do you expect? It isn't crowding as much as that they were totally submissive to him and given nothing of note to do. So, basically, the characters were written like how fans get jaded when they meet their idols. Nobody ever pays attention to fans but only to the idol. But with less idolatry, they could have balanced it out.
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I agree. That says it better, imo.

@Kessel wrote:
@Saracene wrote:
@Acritiqua wrote:I thought Han crowded out the new leads too...
@Acritiqua

I thought that Han was one of the best things in TFA, but I do think that story-wise the film hits a flat patch after he and Chewie show up.
@Saracene

I absolutely loved Han in TFA and I think he added so much to the dynamic once he showed up. I do think the scene on the Eravana (when the gangs show up and the rathars) was a low-point in the movie (the rathar scene was my bathroom break on subsequent viewings, lol), but it picks up after that.
@Kessel Yeah, I agree about the low point.

Also I hope people understand that because I think that Han overrode Rey and Finn (detracting from their agency) that doesn't mean I didn't like Han in the movie. I just wish they'd tried to do it a bit differently.

I also wish the Han/Leia interaction had been more... something. I don't know what, but they fell a bit flat.

The scene that was amazing was the Han and Kylo confrontation. The way Han calls Ben out and the pain in his voice. Their performances convinced me they were father and son. I could feel it--all this history and baggage, pain and resentment, between them. And that long ago it was only love.


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Post by snufkin on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:12 pm

Live camera of JJ's first day back at Lucasfilm for IX pre-production



Star Wars Twitter, like Twitter on so many other topics, is full of hot takes, snark, pro-JJ, anti-JJ (some people really seem to take how a movie or TV show is handled as a personal insult), magical thinking that JJ will "make things right" because of whatever character developments/plot points somebody disagrees with, "I'm withholding judgement on Rian Johnson because I don't know yet if he's going to f**k things up," "he's better than Trevorrow," "I have opinions about Star Trek and Lost," "still mad about that guy who effed up Harry Potter," knee jerk jokes and memes, and the most sensible take, that LF effed up by hiring Trevorrow in the first place instead of going after a director like Jenkins or DuVernay to round out a trilogy where the central character is a woman. The main take away is that there are a million different opinions and yet nearly everybody is unhappy and feels like they're in the minority. Is this what being a sports fan is like? Because it was exhausting just reading all of that.
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:15 pm

@snufkin Kylo's scar is going to be JJ's red stapler.

Okay, I know they want to protect the plot twist, but dang. Novelization not released until March???

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Post by snufkin on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:23 pm

@MeadowofAshes - hahaha! They do sell the red Swingline thanks to Milton, I even ordered one once for a work colleague who kept bitching about the staplers our department had on hand. He had no idea why the CFO and I laughed our a**es off about that order.

So not until March, that's interesting. Because I didn't see TFA until late February-early March 2016 after the hype/chatter died down and tried listening to the audiobooks to help figure out what I thought I knew. Which turned out to mostly be bad ADF prose. But between the delay, no fan event next year, and the cryptic MH quotes, it's easy to think that something crazy is going to happen and they're hedging bets on fan reaction. Like diehards might start screaming for RJ's head or escalate the "help us JJ, you're our only hope!" based on whatever happens in the story. Mystery box complaints aside, it is really nice that we can have a *general* idea of what's going to happen and that it'll be great, but still not like most movies where if you've seen the trailer, you already know the story.
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Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:26 pm

Do we know who's doing the novelisation this time around?
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:27 pm

@Acritiqua wrote:
@vaderito wrote:Han upstaged some characters. That's due to writing. Write characters better and they won't be upstaged, very simple. But if you have this old geezer quip quotable lines while characters he's baby-sitting are only reacting to that and geeking out, what do you expect? It isn't crowding as much as that they were totally submissive to him and given nothing of note to do. So, basically, the characters were written like how fans get jaded when they meet their idols. Nobody ever pays attention to fans but only to the idol. But with less idolatry, they could have balanced it out.
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I agree. That says it better, imo.

@Kessel wrote:
@Saracene wrote:
@Acritiqua wrote:I thought Han crowded out the new leads too...
@Acritiqua

I thought that Han was one of the best things in TFA, but I do think that story-wise the film hits a flat patch after he and Chewie show up.
@Saracene

I absolutely loved Han in TFA and I think he added so much to the dynamic once he showed up. I do think the scene on the Eravana (when the gangs show up and the rathars) was a low-point in the movie (the rathar scene was my bathroom break on subsequent viewings, lol), but it picks up after that.
@Kessel Yeah, I agree about the low point.

Also I hope people understand that because I think that Han overrode Rey and Finn (detracting from their agency) that doesn't mean I didn't like Han in the movie. I just wish they'd tried to do it a bit differently.

I also wish the Han/Leia interaction had been more... something. I don't know what, but they fell a bit flat.

The scene that was amazing was the Han and Kylo confrontation. The way Han calls Ben out and the pain in his voice. Their performances convinced me they were father and son. I could feel it--all this history and baggage, pain and resentment, between them. And that long ago it was only love.
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Actually Id like Force ghost Han, if only so Kylo knows he forgave him.
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Post by EchoBase on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:27 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:Do we know who's doing the novelisation this time around?
@Darth Dingbat

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Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:30 pm

@EchoBase wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:Do we know who's doing the novelisation this time around?
@Darth Dingbat

Jason Fry
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Oh, right! I forgot. Thank you.

That's good though. For a moment I had visions of reading ADF's prose... er, anew.

(I'm still not sure if I'm going to buy the novelisation at all, though I like Fry. Perhaps I might give it a go. I found all the TFA novelisations and adaptations completely useless; they did better with RO, however.)
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Post by vaderito on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:34 pm

It's encouraging that the movie is being shown to people so sooner or later something's gonna leak. I have faith.

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:38 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:Do we know who's doing the novelisation this time around?
@Darth Dingbat

Jason Fry
@EchoBase

Oh, right! I forgot. Thank you.

That's good though. For a moment I had visions of reading ADF's prose... er, anew.

(I'm still not sure if I'm going to buy the novelisation at all, though I like Fry. Perhaps I might give it a go. I found all the TFA novelisations and adaptations completely useless; they did better with RO, however.)
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I liked the junior TFA novel better.
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Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 12:44 pm

@motherofpearl1 wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:Do we know who's doing the novelisation this time around?
@Darth Dingbat

Jason Fry
@EchoBase

Oh, right! I forgot. Thank you.

That's good though. For a moment I had visions of reading ADF's prose... er, anew.

(I'm still not sure if I'm going to buy the novelisation at all, though I like Fry. Perhaps I might give it a go. I found all the TFA novelisations and adaptations completely useless; they did better with RO, however.)
@Darth Dingbat

I liked the junior TFA novel better.
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Me too, but it was still useless from my point of view because the Story Group hadn't even looked at it. Basically all TFA novelisations and adaptations were just their authors' interpretations of the film. I mean, I don't read novelisations of my other favourite films either; why would I need some random novelist's interpretation of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, for example? I've already got the film. That's all the story I need.

That said, perhaps the TLJ ones will have a bit of extra value? Fry is more chummy with the Story Group so perhaps there was some actual collaboration this time around. I would hope so.
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Post by EchoBase on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 1:15 pm

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https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/908023518184464384

Oh, lyrics anyone?

"You can shine your shoes and wear a suit
You can comb your hair and look quite cute
You can hide your face behind a smile
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
You can wear a mask and paint your face
You can call yourself the human race
You can wear a collar and a tie
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
Well now you know that your
Cat has nine lives
Nine lives to itself
But you only got one
And a dog's life ain't fun
Momma take a look outside
You can go to church and sing a hymn
You can judge me by the color of my skin
You can live a lie until you die
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
Well now you know that your
Cat has nine lives
Nine lives to itself
But you only got one
And a dog's life ain't fun
Momma take a look outside
You can go to church and sing a hymn
Judge me by the color of my skin
You can live a lie until you die
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside"

Freaking out begins in 3,2,1...
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 1:19 pm

@EchoBase wrote:Discussions: Tweets/Instagram - Page 38 Img_1030

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/908023518184464384

Oh, lyrics anyone?

"You can shine your shoes and wear a suit
You can comb your hair and look quite cute
You can hide your face behind a smile
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
You can wear a mask and paint your face
You can call yourself the human race
You can wear a collar and a tie
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
Well now you know that your
Cat has nine lives
Nine lives to itself
But you only got one
And a dog's life ain't fun
Momma take a look outside
You can go to church and sing a hymn
You can judge me by the color of my skin
You can live a lie until you die
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
Well now you know that your
Cat has nine lives
Nine lives to itself
But you only got one
And a dog's life ain't fun
Momma take a look outside
You can go to church and sing a hymn
Judge me by the color of my skin
You can live a lie until you die
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside
One thing you can't hide
Is when you're crippled inside"

Freaking out begins in 3,2,1...
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Holy sith!!!  What a Face

Cue everyone picking this one apart to the bare bones in 3....2....1....
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 1:20 pm

I'll give it the first stab.  Rey is going to see all his secrets, pain, and tragedy laid bare in front of her.

OMG, this is so delicious I could eat it up...
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