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Post by SkyStar on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 6:58 am

@vaderito wrote:Ok, so if the spoiler that SSD is crashing on a planet with Kylo, Finn and Poe aboard is true, than it's going to be Dreadnought rather than Mega. Since Dreadnought appears to have a landing platform for another SD, it's possible that Snoke comes to Dreadnought from Mega on another SD (hence why Lego sets show him on a regular SD).

This is the spoiler with a destroyer doodle that looks like Dreadnought:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/6bvdeo/tlj_details/

I put some stuff up on another thread but I thought I'd post it here.
Was in London at the weekend for some drinks with school friends, my friend Mike lives there and works grip on some tv programmes and seemed to know some details that are on the grapevine. He's always seemed genuine (was more of a friend of a friend at school) but was a bit weird when I asked if luke died.
He knows his s*** but is pretty dense on day to day stuff.
Basically, says that Rey goes off with Snoke at the end when theyre all on a destroyer and betrays Kylo Ren when he won't kill rey.
The destroyer is amidst a space battle and is heavily damaged, descending towards a planet with kylo, finn and poe aboard.
I asked if Luke died and he laughed. He's never given me any info before but I only see him normally when he comes home as he's been in London since uni. Our other friend of a friend is an architect who claimed to consult on a tall structure on TFA but turned out to be vader's castle prototype.
anyhow, he described the destroyer so I doodled it.
https://imgur.com/wYtLquz
edit: he also says Kylo kills Phasma, doesn't allude to when

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Q:I took that to mean Snoke betrays Kylo because Kylo won't kill Rey. Maybe...?
DM: yeah that's what he's referring too. Not sure how that would work but Johnson is very much a show and not tell director

DM:He alluded to Snoke betraying Kylo somehow and Rey goes off with Snoke.
My information is 3rd hand as he's got it from someone on a new job.
I pressed him for info on Snoke but said he didn't know. I presume he just doesn't know, but could mean we don't find out and we have to wait till 9. not sure.

Q:Am I reading this correctly? Smoke wants KR to kill Rey. KR can't / won't kill her so Snoke betrays KR and Rey goes off with Snoke (who was just trying to have her killed)?
DM:yeah that's what it sounds like

Q:Did your buddy tell you what planet the star destroyer crashes on?
DM:no sorry
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I hope this rumor is true and Kylo saves them by stopping the pizzacraft with the force. bounce
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Post by vaderito on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 7:35 am

@Skystar His Force Freeze has to amount to something bigger than just freezing pretty girls lost in the woods. Very Happy
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Post by Kylo Men on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 8:41 am

I seem to be reading hints of Snoke being confined to one place. If so, would that invalidate crashing SSD rumor?

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Post by vaderito on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 8:54 am

@Kylo Men wrote:I seem to be reading hints of Snoke being confined to one place. If so, would that invalidate crashing SSD rumor?
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And what are those hints? remember hints that Rey doesn't leave Ahch-to? Just because we or spoiler sources don't see an empirical evidence, it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

I'll keep this theory in mind as long as nothing contradicts it and so far nothing contradicted it. Doodled image looks like Dreadnought and, IMO, Dreadnought crash makes more sense than Mega crash cause that would be too much of a defeat for Snoke after SKB. Also, the spoiler doesn't say Mega, it's fans assumption that it's Mega. And doodle matches Dreadnought. And Jason has heard that "Luke goes for Snoke and Rey for Kylo near the end of TLJ". And that fight with stuntmen whose prop sticks strongly imply Praetorian weapons could suggest that Rey comes to Snoke (since Praetorians guard him). Etc.
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 9:09 am

@vaderito

Have you got any better image of the doodle?

I see just a dark shape of it. And that shape suggests every and each SD from PT until ST.
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Post by Helix on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 9:25 am

@Darth_Awakened wrote:@vaderito

Have you got any better image of the doodle?

I see just a dark shape of it. And that shape suggests every and each SD from PT until ST.
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Yeah, they're pretty much all giant space doritos/pizzas.
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Post by vaderito on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 9:30 am

@Darth_Awakened wrote:@vaderito

Have you got any better image of the doodle?

I see just a dark shape of it. And that shape suggests every and each SD from PT until ST.
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Nope. This is every and each SD:

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if he wanted to copy the shape, he'd copy it. But his triangle matches Dreadnought.

I'm not giving up this theory until I see complete contradiction. Then I'll admit I was wrong.

I'm definitely not giving up Croatian hackers. They will be vindicated!
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 9:34 am

@vaderito wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:@vaderito

Have you got any better image of the doodle?

I see just a dark shape of it. And that shape suggests every and each SD from PT until ST.
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Nope. This is every and each SD:

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if he wanted to copy the shape, he'd copy it. But his triangle matches Dreadnought.

I'm not giving up this theory until I see complete contradiction. Then I'll admit I was wrong.

I'm definitely not giving up Croatian hackers. They will be vindicated!
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LOL

All right.

Just of the curiosity: we haven't seen Mega yet?

(I must admit that most of the destroyers look the same to me: expect the last one which looks straight flat like pizza)
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Post by vaderito on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 9:56 am

@Darth_Awakened No mega yet. Lego showed Snoke on the regular SD.
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Post by Darth Dingbat on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 11:15 am

Dreadnought, Battle of Crait (Crete)... the parallels to World Wars are quite on the nose.

Which makes me wonder if Canto Bight = San Remo might host something comparable to the San Remo Conference, after all.
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Post by vaderito on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 11:51 am

@Darth Dingbat wrote:Dreadnought, Battle of Crait (Crete)... the parallels to World Wars are quite on the nose.

Which makes me wonder if Canto Bight = San Remo might host something comparable to the San Remo Conference, after all.
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That's interesting. I'm not good with World wars so can you explain each reference?

Also, I've been thinking something. GL could have made the Skywalker saber more mythical in PT in the sense that Anakin was attached to it. After all, OB1 gave it to Luke saying that his father would like him to have it. But we saw that Anakin was losing his sabers and didn't really care. It isn't like that the saber had a name or was given at the special ceremony or whatever. So ST is now clearly attaching some mythical significance to the blue one, beyond fan service, which I think is to show that one doesn't have to be a Skywalker to wield a mythical saber. It's mythical. if the Force chooses one as its champion, he/she will wield it. IMO, it's a strike against Reywalker not in favor of Reywalker. The saber of the champion/worthy rather than the saber of the lineage.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 1:09 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:Dreadnought, Battle of Crait (Crete)... the parallels to World Wars are quite on the nose.

Which makes me wonder if Canto Bight = San Remo might host something comparable to the San Remo Conference, after all.
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If that is a reference for San Remo, the future of the ST universe looks bleak
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