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Post by vaderito on Tue 14 Nov - 13:31

@Piper Maru wrote:Laughing

Sounds an awful lot like Gangsta Rap Dude's "speculation".

I wish it were true, but I doubt it.
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It is him.

And the leak is FAF.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 14 Nov - 13:43

@Cowgirlsamurai wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:A new FAFastic gem from 4Chan:

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/90210516/the-last-jedi

Read at your own risk:
Saw the film this weekend. Not a larp fag so I’m not going to answer questions. Just going to give a brief summary of the movie.

This is different than most Star Wars movies and actually focuses on the “War” part. Luke and Rey’s stories take a backseat to Finn and the Resistance and Poe struggling with some demons and losing himself in the desire to completely eradicate the First Order.

The movie opens with a massive space battle as the Resistance attempts to flee D’qar. Finn is woken up from his coma in the evacuation and outfitted with a “biohexacrypt” which is basically an artificial spine. The biohexacrypt needs to be charged every hour or Finn will be paralyzed again until it gets reactivated. With the help of a small faction of the remaining New Republic fleet and a brief moment of hesitation by Kylo Ren, the Resistance does just enough to remain afloat and opt to regroup at an old Rebel Alliance base called Crait.

Leia sends Finn to a Planet called Catonica where the extremely wealthy denizens of the galaxy play games. Some games are harmless like cards or races. Some games are more dangerous and the price is life.

Finn discovers that these people treat the war as one of their games, and simultaneously fund both the Resistance and the First Order and then gamble on which side will win.

Luke Skywalker finds out very quickly that Rey is dangerously powerful, and may be the most powerful potential student he has ever seen. He refuses to train her but she can feel the strength of the force on the planet and proceeds to teach herself. He watches, equal parts terrified and equal parts curious.

Snoke is absolutely furious with Kylo Ren and berates him. Kylo gets so angry he destroys his helmet and leaves in search of Luke Skywalker despite Snoke warning him not to.

Despite being ordered to lay low, Poe forms a rogue squadron that has no disregard for rules of engagement and targets civilian planets and likens them to “farms”.
Bordering on near terrorism tactics, an all out open war erupts in the galaxy between Poe’s guerilla tactics and the responses of General Hux who begins fighting back on Poe’s terms.

Rey steals a compass from Luke while he sleeps and finds “The journals of the Whills” and begins teaching herself from the books. Luke catches her one night and becomes angry. She begins having visions of the night Ben Solo destroyed Luke’s temple. Kylo Ren experiences them as well and can feel her through the Force. He exploits this connection to find Luke and Rey over time.

Luke finally relents and decides he will train Rey.

Finn breaks out a Slicer with the help of Rose and they escape Catonica on his surprisingly fancy ship. The guy is never named as “he doesn’t do names because he doesn’t want to get attached to dead people”

Time goes by and Poe’s tactics increasingly endanger the Resistance culminating in an ambush that forces Poe to be tracked back to Crait.

Rey has an extremely powerful vision when she nearly drowns and sees the truth of her family: her mother was the illegitimate daughter of the Emperor and when the First Order found out they hunted her down and killed her. Luke knew from the get go who she was and she gets angry with him for not telling her.

Kylo Ren feels all this through the Force and he and his Knights head for Ach To.

Finn Rose and the Slicer are sent aboard the Supremacy to attempt to bankrupt the First Order by hacking into their accounts where they store the credits they receive from Canto Bight. The Slicer betrays them and they are captured. Finn is sentenced to an execution, but Rose has been planting bombs all through out the Bay as the First Order prepares for a ground invasion of Crait. The bombs go off as he’s about to be executed.

Luke and Rey have a fight as a storm approaches and Kylo and the Knights arrive. Luke runs but Rey attacks Kylo immediately.

The Knights beat the hell out of Luke and destroy the Tree with the journals.

Kylo reveals the truth to Rey about the night the Academy was destroyed. It was an accident. Kylo lost control of his powers upon learning the reason he was tempted by the dark side was because his grandfather was Darth Vader. Ben didn’t betray Luke, Luke cast Ben out because he was afraid of his power. Ben did the only thing he felt he could do: go to Snoke to help him learn to control his power. Rey understands now that they’re connection is the will of the force and they share a passionate kiss.

Luke finally loses his temper and destroys the Knights of Ren with red force lightning.

Rey leaves Ach To with Kylo Ren. An absolutely livid Luke Skywalker decides it’s time to leave this planet. We find out his compass points to Snoke’s Star Destroyer, which is an ancient technology capable of not only being a battle station but manufacturing entire fleets as well.

The battle of Crait is won by taking the ground out from underneath the walkers. Leia is wounded in an explosion.

Snoke tests Kylo’s commitment and orders him to kill Rey. He turns on Snoke’s Guards instead and together Rey and Ben defeat the guards.

They prepare to attack Snoke but he just laughs at them and vanishes. Ben and Rey are confused until they hear Luke behind them telling them Peace can only be achieved through order because “Peace is a lie”.

He lights up a red lightsaber and duels Ben and Rey briefly before the Supremacy comes under heavy fire, ending the duel without a winner. Poe sacrifices himself to take it down.

Ben is reunited with his mother as she draws her dying breath and makes him promise to bring his uncle back to the light. He reluctantly promised he will as she dies.

Cut to Rey and Ben on a bridge looking out at the galaxy. Finn sees them and looks a bit hurt and concerned. They embrace and the movie ends.

@Darth_Awakened

This sounds really familiar...especially the ending. Just a bunch of elements of past fake leaks combined? scratch
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@ZioRen wrote:It's just Gangsta Rap Guy's leak. You can tell by the ending.
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@Piper Maru wrote:Laughing

Sounds an awful lot like Gangsta Rap Dude's "speculation".

I wish it were true, but I doubt it.
@Piper Maru

Yup. That's a "leak" version of GRG's "speculation" post. LOL

Although Finn needing his spine charged every hour is a new one/nice touch.

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Post by vaderito on Tue 14 Nov - 13:49

@ISeeAnIsland It isn't new. It's derived from old leak that GRG supported, which has DJ betray Finn by downloading codes stored in Finn's spine or something. It's believed that 4chan leaker whom GRG supports is either him or they work in tandem.
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Post by MyOnlyHope on Tue 14 Nov - 13:59

Hilarious jumble of nonsensical bullet points. Nowhere near a cohesive story.

And of course it went Reylo (albeit in a Rolling Eyes way), as all these FAF leaks do.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 14 Nov - 14:19

@vaderito wrote:@ISeeAnIsland It isn't new. It's derived from old leak that GRG supported, which has DJ betray Finn by downloading codes stored in Finn's spine or something. It's believed that 4chan leaker whom GRG supports is either him or they work in tandem.
@vaderito

I'm starting to wonder how many sock accounts GRG has on 4chan and reddit... And am also thinking that he got very lucky with the teaser/trailer stuff.
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Post by vaderito on Tue 14 Nov - 14:19

@MyOnlyHope wrote:Hilarious jumble of nonsensical bullet points. Nowhere near a cohesive story.

And of course it went Reylo (albeit in a Rolling Eyes way), as all these FAF leaks do.
@MyOnlyHope

Antis at their finest. Gonna be very surprised how well Rian will handle it. Nothing like their nonsensical under-developed crap.

@ISeeAnisland Not even teasers and trailers. He went into some details and none proved true. He only got right general/vague stuff such as that there will be clips (but that was promo strategy for RO and TFA in that period so no need for insider) and that Kylo featured in at least 2 was a given. He misfired all else.

search your feelings, does that leak and his leak/spec/whatever sound like a competent movie that Rian would make?
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Post by DarthRen on Tue 14 Nov - 14:34

At least we know GRG is a Reylo. He has a very vivid mind for it. lol!
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 14 Nov - 14:40

@vaderito wrote:
@MyOnlyHope wrote:Hilarious jumble of nonsensical bullet points. Nowhere near a cohesive story.

And of course it went Reylo (albeit in a Rolling Eyes way), as all these FAF leaks do.
@MyOnlyHope

Antis at their finest. Gonna be very surprised how well Rian will handle it. Nothing like their nonsensical under-developed crap.

@ISeeAnisland Not even teasers and trailers. He went into some details and none proved true. He only got right general/vague stuff such as that there will be clips (but that was promo strategy for RO and TFA in that period so no need for insider) and that Kylo featured in at least 2 was a given. He misfired all else.

search your feelings, does that leak and his leak/spec/whatever sound like a competent movie that Rian would make?
@vaderito

I've generally thought that he was overplaying how much he knew, but at one point, I thought that he'd known at least some details/plot points. However, he's been looking more and more desperate by propagating all of these fake leaks, at this point. As much as I was a fan of the idea of a dark Luke (in some way), his take on it is just ridiculous. FAF, indeed.

However, I will mourn the loss of the Finn-wins-big-at-the-Casino bit because that aspect did sound very "real" and like a fun in-character scene for Finn/Rose. Laughing
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Post by vaderito on Tue 14 Nov - 14:49

@ISeeAnIsland It's possible that Finn in the casino is the only thing that's real. Sometimes people who hear small things try to overplay their scoopage and make up stuff but one real thing gives them credibility for the whole mess.
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Post by Night Huntress on Tue 14 Nov - 15:03

as much as I like to see a passionate Reylo kiss- I don't think that will happen... at least not like he described.
They fight and suddenly they kiss? No time together for "bonding" and "knowing" each other?

Overall it's much to vague - no details where it counts and unimportant things explained in detail... I don't believe he saw it for a second
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Post by Birdwoman on Tue 14 Nov - 15:27

Evil Luke, Passionate kiss right after they see each for the first time since Starkiller base, Leia dies and then Poe? Oh my god, hahahahaha! This is so funny.
This leak at lease had Luke in the final act doing something.

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Post by reylo1992 on Tue 14 Nov - 15:29

The best part: Leia dying in her son's arms although it was repeatedly confirmed by KK, Mark Hamill and the whole SW crew that Carrie was supposed to have a more important role in Episode 9...as a Force ghost Question   Claps
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I must admit that I began to be in a cold sweat reading the beginning of the "leak" but then it went worse and worse so he lose me Twisted Evil


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Post by IoJovi on Tue 14 Nov - 15:31

It’s FAF, but it IS definitely telling how almost all crack leaks have Reylo in one or another since the trailer aired. We obviously aren’t the only ones who see it.
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Post by reylo1992 on Tue 14 Nov - 15:34

@IoJovi wrote:It’s FAF, but it IS definitely telling how almost all crack leaks have Reylo in one or another since the trailer aired. We obviously aren’t the only ones who see it.
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Yeah: That's heonly good thing. People are now seeing Reylo everywhere. But I mean, no Rose in this script and Reylo embracing in front of "hurt" Finn. Poor Finn: Finnrey ain't going to appreciate if Rian does this, and we couldn't blame them, right?
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Post by reylo1992 on Tue 14 Nov - 15:39

Interesting to note that until now,all the crack spoiler we got ended either with Luke turning on the DS, or Rey turning to the DS, or Kylo and Rey leaving everything behind them. Interesting also how people see Snoke.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 14 Nov - 16:22

Gangsta Rap Guy is the new News From Jakku.
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Post by Kylo Men on Tue 14 Nov - 17:27

I assume we mean it's not GRG, but the guy who claimed to have seen the film, correct?

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Post by DarthRen on Tue 14 Nov - 18:06

@RosiePancake wrote:
@Kylo Men wrote:I assume we mean it's not GRG, but the guy who claimed to have seen the film, correct?
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yeah, many 4chan leakers before him said something similar too.
This new leaker made it clear that he wasn't an attention seeker, so he didn't do AMA thread like the others and only gave the summary of important plotline. His leak didn't exactly match with GRG's speculation.
GRG didn't outright support Reylo, he said he saw the potential of it, but he wasn't a fan or an anti either. Very Happy

I'm starting to think it would be hilarious if Dark!Luke (not really evil, but ruthless, delusional, different "point of view" like Anakin or whatever you want to call) was true. Honestly Dark!Luke really could beat "I am your father" moment. The reaction of SW fans in many forums, both Reylos and ReySky, somehow  show that they're "afraid" of that idea.
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I think Dark!Luke scenario, even the one you've mentioned would probably take focus off from the new characters. I would love it but fear this aswell.
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Post by PalmettoBlue on Tue 14 Nov - 19:00

@DarthRen wrote:
@RosiePancake wrote:
@Kylo Men wrote:I assume we mean it's not GRG, but the guy who claimed to have seen the film, correct?
@Kylo Men

yeah, many 4chan leakers before him said something similar too.
This new leaker made it clear that he wasn't an attention seeker, so he didn't do AMA thread like the others and only gave the summary of important plotline. His leak didn't exactly match with GRG's speculation.
GRG didn't outright support Reylo, he said he saw the potential of it, but he wasn't a fan or an anti either. Very Happy

I'm starting to think it would be hilarious if Dark!Luke (not really evil, but ruthless, delusional, different "point of view" like Anakin or whatever you want to call) was true. Honestly Dark!Luke really could beat "I am your father" moment. The reaction of SW fans in many forums, both Reylos and ReySky, somehow  show that they're "afraid" of that idea.
@RosiePancake

I think Dark!Luke scenario, even the one you've mentioned would probably take focus off from the new characters. I would love it but fear this aswell.
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I was thinking almost exactly this. My thought was that if Ben is tasked with bringing his uncle back to the light, then it completely shifts the focus of the movie from the new characters to the old ones...and Mark Hamill has repeatedly said that he's a "supporting" character. For that reason alone, I'd say that this leak is not to be trusted.
And while I'd love a Reylo kiss - I think that's the most "out there" wish I have on my bingo card. But maybe, hopefully....
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Post by vaderito on Tue 14 Nov - 19:11

@IoJovi wrote:It’s FAF, but it IS definitely telling how almost all crack leaks have Reylo in one or another since the trailer aired. We obviously aren’t the only ones who see it.
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IMO, those FAF leaks all have such bad Reylo scenarios they gotta be antis trolling everyone. This leak more so than any. Like, a passionate kiss just out of blue? What is this, Kylux?
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Post by DarthRen on Tue 14 Nov - 19:32

@PalmettoBlue wrote:
@DarthRen wrote:
@RosiePancake wrote:
@Kylo Men wrote:I assume we mean it's not GRG, but the guy who claimed to have seen the film, correct?
@Kylo Men

yeah, many 4chan leakers before him said something similar too.
This new leaker made it clear that he wasn't an attention seeker, so he didn't do AMA thread like the others and only gave the summary of important plotline. His leak didn't exactly match with GRG's speculation.
GRG didn't outright support Reylo, he said he saw the potential of it, but he wasn't a fan or an anti either. Very Happy

I'm starting to think it would be hilarious if Dark!Luke (not really evil, but ruthless, delusional, different "point of view" like Anakin or whatever you want to call) was true. Honestly Dark!Luke really could beat "I am your father" moment. The reaction of SW fans in many forums, both Reylos and ReySky, somehow  show that they're "afraid" of that idea.
@RosiePancake

I think Dark!Luke scenario, even the one you've mentioned would probably take focus off from the new characters. I would love it but fear this aswell.
@DarthRen

I was thinking almost exactly this. My thought was that if Ben is tasked with bringing his uncle back to the light, then it completely shifts the focus of the movie from the new characters to the old ones...and Mark Hamill has repeatedly said that he's a "supporting" character. For that reason alone, I'd say that this leak is not to be trusted.
And while I'd love a Reylo kiss - I think that's the most "out there" wish I have on my bingo card. But maybe, hopefully....
@PalmettoBlue

Yep. I ignore basically any leak suggesting that Luke is a hostage by Snoke, dies or turns to the dark side. Focus would shift to him and contradicts what Mark Hamill told us. If anyone's life will in danger, it's Kylo or Rey.
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Post by vaderito on Wed 15 Nov - 5:26

So lets get the rundown of contradictions (I'm paraphrasing actors and director):

"Luke is evil!" vs Mark's Luke isn't on the Dark Side, he's just grumpy

"Poe dies!" vs Oscar's I'm in IX

"It's all about Luke!" vs Mark's I'm just supporting new cast

"Rey and Kylo have a passionate kiss out of blue early in the movie" vs Rian's I felt that the characters weren't there yet

"Phasma kills Rose!" vs Rose seen alive and kicking long after the clash with Phasma

"Rose betrays the Resistance" vs Rose fighting for the Resistance long after the supposed betrayal

Etc. I'm just collecting most usual FAF faux pas.

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Post by panki on Wed 15 Nov - 5:53

'Dead traitor' Rose riding ski speeder and fighting for the resistance on Crait.... Lolilol These crack spoilers are hilarious!

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Post by vaderito on Wed 15 Nov - 6:00

lol! lol! lol! lol!

FAF leakers see a lot of dead people.
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