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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:37 pm

Kylo Ren vs. Rey: In The Last Jedi, the danger is becoming allies instead of enemies

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Post by Kylo Rey on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:40 pm

THAT NEW ARTICLE. SCREAMSSSSSS
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:41 pm

That whole article...I just...

I know exactly what line a certain fandom faction will run away with, though.

But then, Rian absolutely filleted them with this:

“But I don’t think it’s very interesting if the whole story is just ‘Will Kylo get his comeuppance?’ He’s a more complicated character than that and I think he deserves a more complicated story than that. I don’t see the point of trying to get behind his mask and learn more about him if all we’re going to learn is ‘Yeah, he’s just an evil bad guy that needs to be killed.’”
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Post by Kylo Rey on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:42 pm

I'm sorry but that article is spoilery AF LMAO
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Post by Moonlight13 on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:43 pm

@Kylo Rey wrote:I'm sorry but that article is spoilery AF LMAO
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True. It basically tells you the whole plot. Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:45 pm

Maybe that spoiler forum subsection should be built a little early!
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:46 pm

Seriously, what else could "something...that he can't quite place" be? Adam already said 'something familiar' before that in the quote, so it isn't familiarity or recognition. Sooooo... Twisted Evil

I'm skeptical about the "he craves respect, so he has none to spare" and the "corrosive envy" piece. That doesn't seem to quite fit into what Adam was saying (considering he just said before that Kylo has an admiration for Rey) and it wasn't in a quote. Sounds like Breznican's speculation, as do all of the harsher descriptions of Kylo's feelings toward Rey. If those were corroborated by quotes from Adam and co, he should have used them.


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Post by nite0wl29 on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:49 pm

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Post by Irina de France on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:51 pm

We called it. We all called it folks.

I wish I could almost feel sorry for Anne, but sadly enough, I don't.
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Post by Kylo Rey on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:52 pm

@ZioRen wrote:That whole article...I just...

I know exactly what line a certain fandom faction will run away with, though.

But then, Rian absolutely filleted them with this:

“But I don’t think it’s very interesting if the whole story is just ‘Will Kylo get his comeuppance?’ He’s a more complicated character than that and I think he deserves a more complicated story than that. I don’t see the point of trying to get behind his mask and learn more about him if all we’re going to learn is ‘Yeah, he’s just an evil bad guy that needs to be killed.’”
@ZioRen

Rian Johnson doesn't give a crap about other people's opinions. He's telling the story he WANTED to make. This article has basically confirmed Reylo IS happening.
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Post by Moonlight13 on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:55 pm

I'm still in shock guys. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by Lovely_Rose on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 12:57 pm

Based on the article Kylo might end up being Rey's true teacher in the long run?

When Rey feels rejected by Luke Skywalker, who also sees parallels between the power in her and the abilities of his estranged nephew, the old Jedi master inadvertently pushes the two toward each other.

“This is very much about Rey trying to figure out how she fits into all this, much like any of us as we’re growing up, as we’re transitioning from childhood into adulthood,” Johnson says. “You’re going meet people who you think are going help who don’t. And help is also going come from unexpected places.”

That unexpected place is Kylo Ren, and the situation she finds herself in – alone, unappreciated, is similar to where Ben Solo found himself when broke from his Uncle Luke and followed the Knights of Ren down a darker path.

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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:00 pm

Well this is horrifying



From Sleemo again!


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Post by Darth Dingbat on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:01 pm

@Moonlight13 wrote:
@Kylo Rey wrote:I'm sorry but that article is spoilery AF LMAO
@Kylo Rey

True. It basically tells you the whole plot. Shocked Shocked Shocked
@Moonlight13

Probably not, tbh. I think there's bound to be some kind of misdirection here - or rather, misdirection is the wrong word: rather some kind of sleight of hand that makes us pay attention this <== way when the "shocking revelations" we were promised are actually that ==> way.

I don't think the Reylo bits are "misdirection". I don't think the themes are misdirection, I don't think all these intriguing hints are misdirection. They're just that, intriguing hints. But I'm 100% sure they're keeping the actual plot, as it unfolds, close to their chest.
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Post by Man Without A Star on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:01 pm

Oh my god, he is downright terryfying

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Post by IoJovi on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:01 pm

@Lovely_Rose wrote:Based on the article Kylo might end up being Rey's true teacher in the long run?

When Rey feels rejected by Luke Skywalker, who also sees parallels between the power in her and the abilities of his estranged nephew, the old Jedi master inadvertently pushes the two toward each other.

“This is very much about Rey trying to figure out how she fits into all this, much like any of us as we’re growing up, as we’re transitioning from childhood into adulthood,” Johnson says. “You’re going meet people who you think are going help who don’t. And help is also going come from unexpected places.”

That unexpected place is Kylo Ren, and the situation she finds herself in – alone, unappreciated, is similar to where Ben Solo found himself when broke from his Uncle Luke and followed the Knights of Ren down a darker path.
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This is just.....beautiful beyond words. It’s everything I was hoping for would come true!!! It’s two lonely souls finding solace in each other, combined with the angst of forbidden love. I am ecstatic beyond words right now!!! I love you

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Post by Darth_Awakened on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:02 pm

One of those moments when you don't know what to say.

Oh Dear!

Is it spoilerific? For some, of course.

The whole article is basically something we have been talking about for two years.
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:02 pm

This just keeps getting better and better cheers Happy tears for real Sad Very Happy
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Post by Piper Maru on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:03 pm

So, Kylo feels "something he can't quite place" about Rey, huh?

Someone caught feelings.
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Post by IoJovi on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:05 pm

@Piper Maru wrote:So, Kylo feels "something he can't quite place" about Rey, huh?

Someone caught feelings.
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Holy smokes I missed that part!! Where does it say that?
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Post by EchoBase on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:06 pm

"Rey and Kylo Ren are reaching toward each other in combat, but each one could also end up pulling the other to his or her side."

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Post by Night Huntress on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:07 pm

I'm so HAPPY right now!!!!

cheers cheers cheers
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Post by Piper Maru on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:07 pm

@IoJovi wrote:
@Piper Maru wrote:So, Kylo feels "something he can't quite place" about Rey, huh?

Someone caught feelings.
@Piper Maru

Holy smokes I missed that part!! Where does it say that?
@IoJovi

In Adam Driver's quote:





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Post by IoJovi on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:08 pm

@Piper Maru wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:
@Piper Maru wrote:So, Kylo feels "something he can't quite place" about Rey, huh?

Someone caught feelings.
@Piper Maru

Holy smokes I missed that part!! Where does it say that?
@IoJovi

In Adam Driver's quote:





@Piper Maru


Nevermind I needed to scroll up. Reading now!
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 19 Nov 2017, 1:09 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Moonlight13 wrote:
@Kylo Rey wrote:I'm sorry but that article is spoilery AF LMAO
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True. It basically tells you the whole plot. Shocked Shocked Shocked
@Moonlight13

Probably not, tbh. I think there's bound to be some kind of misdirection here - or rather, misdirection is the wrong word: rather some kind of sleight of hand that makes us pay attention this <== way when the "shocking revelations" we were promised are actually that ==> way.

I don't think the Reylo bits are "misdirection". I don't think the themes are misdirection, I don't think all these intriguing hints are misdirection. They're just that, intriguing hints. But I'm 100% sure they're keeping the actual plot, as it unfolds, close to their chest.
@Darth Dingbat

I think the real story might be in the "destinies intertwined" bits, and the power they both share. There's still quite a lot of mystery about that and what the two are capable of together, were they to come together. But I do  have to admit that the more they echo things we've said for so long, the more suspicious I get.

Also, they need to make up their minds what the "heart" of the movie is. They said it was Rey and Luke before.

Now that I think about it, the way Rian talked about the future of Kylo's character doesn't make it sound like he's solidly moving toward the light by the end of TLJ. Which I suspected, at least.
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