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Post by snufkin on Mon 15 Jan - 0:42

@Kylo Rey - Yep and Uncle Luke interrupts their hut tryst and Hux tattles him out in the first movie. It's like they're teenagers sneaking a member of the opposite sex into their room.  

if he were after a typical supervillain love interest, he'd be dating Phasma because they're both into masks, Gwendolyn Christie looks like a goddamn runway model, and Phasma's a straight up gives no f**ks out for herself villain. If they're going to have a FoD episode with those two, it's going to be super villanous cute how much he's into her because she's so adorable in that series with how they show her big hazel eyes and freckles. Which again, he's super into that and it's not how you'd depict a supervillain love interest type.
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Post by GreyRey on Mon 15 Jan - 5:45

@Kylo Rey wrote:
Also, the loud breathing in the interrogation scene and the way they both shudder after their mini mind probe session ends - it's so obviously a metaphor for sex. Another moment where Rey is shown from Ben's perspective: in TLJ when she mails herself to him in her coffin. It's the most makeup she's worn at that point and her outfit and hair are put together very nicely too. She looks like an angel and is positively glowing. Also, good point about super villain love interests. It's not your typical edgy evil couple at all.
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(Yay, I finally feel I can add something to the conversation!)

Rey dressing more prettier than usual is the same thing women do in real life. We want to look beautiful to those we're interested in. I usually don't wear makeup. It's been a long time since I've worn it last. When I was in a community college then later transferred to an university, there were men that I put on makeup just for them. I was like "See me? I made myself prettier for you."

I think that's what Rey did. Her dressing more beautiful is like her version of Kylo being shirtless; she wanted to him to be attracted to her. She's growing up, becoming more mature.

Also, does anyone think Ben made himself more presentable before Rey arrived there? Maybe he took a shower, styled his hair, then debated which black outfit he should wear.
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Post by Dar-ren19 on Mon 15 Jan - 5:52

@vaderito wrote:@Dar-ren19 Don't worry, ST =/= DS9. I know what shipping woes you are talking about. Difference is, Rey and Kylo have been set up to be the romance of ST from the start. They are the main romance, the one that will bring closure to 9 movies and redeem the Skywalker family. In DS9, the heroine and the villain were never set up to be the romance. They just happened to have much better chemsitry than the heroine and the male character who has always been set up to win her heart eventually, and villainous crush was canon. But that was it. That's the difference between that show and this trilogy.

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Thanks for knowing what I'm talking about! Yes, exactly. I couldn't have put it better about the DS9 situation!

So, I for one am really happy to have come into this 'shipperdom when it's already being supported by not only a good percentage of the fans, but also TPTB. Feels good to have some validation for a change for my 'ship! Laughing

Also, I wanted to say to you all that because I'm a newly "focused" fan of Star Wars (I'll write an intro on the board shortly -- I've been watching it since I was a kid, but I was always a casual fan... it's TLJ that made me a much more entrenched one geek ), I'm probably very ignorant about events and people etc, etc. So please please PLEASE bear with me and my at times idiot questions, okay? I'm reading as fast as I can... also if you want to send me stuff via PM etc for my, uhh, edification, I'll be ecstatic  Very Happy  

Speaking of THAT 'ship in DS9, I think yesterday when I heard about DaisyGate (ChinaGate?), it gave me an immediate flashback to the actress I was referring to (in DS9) and her adamant stand against any progress in that 'ship. But don't worry, you talked me down well and good, so thank you!!! Very Happy
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Post by Dar-ren19 on Mon 15 Jan - 6:15

okay, a quick few questions and an observation. I'd be grateful if someone can respond... no hurry, though!

So, did Kylo know that Rey was coming to his ship? I missed that somehow. It wasn't a surprise to him? I did notice that she was escorted in LOL.

What is "ST"? Sorry, indulge me please Smile

A further observation about Rey's "sexual awakening" on the island with Luke going ballistic. During the first lesson, when to Luke's horror she went "straight to the dark place"... and the ground cracked open and she got drenched in the splashing water... I think even my ears got hot watching that in the theater LOL.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 15 Jan - 6:22

@Dar-ren19 wrote:okay, a quick few questions and an observation. I'd be grateful if someone can respond... no hurry, though!

So, did Kylo know that Rey was coming to his ship? I missed that somehow. It wasn't a surprise to him? I did notice that she was escorted in LOL.

What is "ST"? Sorry, indulge me please Smile

A further observation about Rey's "sexual awakening" on the island with Luke going ballistic. During the first lesson, when to Luke's horror she went "straight to the dark place"... and the ground cracked open and she got drenched in the splashing water... I think even my ears got hot watching that in the theater LOL.
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Rey's makeup was also different in the shot immediately following her initial connection with the darkside cave (the splashing water one). It's a lighter version of the makeup she wears when she ships herself to Kylo.
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Post by Dar-ren19 on Mon 15 Jan - 6:33

@ISeeAnIsland Oh, I hadn't noticed that! Will have to watch again Smile
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Post by Rei of Sunshine on Mon 15 Jan - 9:08

@GreyRey wrote:
@Kylo Rey wrote:
Also, the loud breathing in the interrogation scene and the way they both shudder after their mini mind probe session ends - it's so obviously a metaphor for sex. Another moment where Rey is shown from Ben's perspective: in TLJ when she mails herself to him in her coffin. It's the most makeup she's worn at that point and her outfit and hair are put together very nicely too. She looks like an angel and is positively glowing. Also, good point about super villain love interests. It's not your typical edgy evil couple at all.
@Kylo Rey

(Yay, I finally feel I can add something to the conversation!)

Rey dressing more prettier than usual is the same thing women do in real life. We want to look beautiful to those we're interested in. I usually don't wear makeup. It's been a long time since I've worn it last. When I was in a community college then later transferred to an university, there were men that I put on makeup just for them. I was like "See me? I made myself prettier for you."

I think that's what Rey did. Her dressing more beautiful is like her version of Kylo being shirtless; she wanted to him to be attracted to her. She's growing up, becoming more mature.

Also, does anyone think Ben made himself more presentable before Rey arrived there? Maybe he took a shower, styled his hair, then debated which black outfit he should wear.
@GreyRey

I see it the other way round. These characters don't really have the time to put on make up and primp up for a date in universe. Unless they were Leia and Padme who has servants or has always put up with appearances.

The idea that the other suddenly looks prettier or put together in the presence of their LI reminds me when I used to read Harlequin romances stories back in middle school. I always wondered why the men and women are described to be so handsome or so pretty to the point that I asked my reading buddy in a sarcastic way if all the people in books have to be so good looking? Her response was something that changed my outlook with romances.

She said that these characters are described in the POV of the person looking at them, their LIs. And the ones describing see them as gorgeous or handsome because that's how they appear to them, regardless of what other characters in the story think so.

I think this also applies to Rey and Kylo. In TFA she looked gorgeous in thr interrogation scene because that's how Kylo saw her, and he was young and breathtaking because thats how she saw him. In TLJ, during the Force sessions, they were both beautiful for each other but infront of other characters no so much. Kylo is a broken boy infront of Snoke, while Rey is a tomboyish student to Luke. But when they face each other, suddenly its as if they got a make over.

They didn't intentionally make themselves look pretty. That's just how they see each other.
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Post by Starliteprism on Mon 15 Jan - 9:16

@lauvamp wrote:@Starliteprism

Cool! Can you recommend me a good website to pre-order? I saw them in Amazon UK and USA but not Spain yet Sad (I will ask to a Disney Store in Barcelona). They are too awesome! I need them for my collection Embarassed

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Hubz did this through Amazon (UK), but I think you could still order through UK, if they deliver? I have both a UK and US account for Amazon, since I am both American and British. clown
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Mon 15 Jan - 9:55

@Starliteprism wrote:
@lauvamp wrote:@Starliteprism

Cool! Can you recommend me a good website to pre-order? I saw them in Amazon UK and USA but not Spain yet Sad (I will ask to a Disney Store in Barcelona). They are too awesome! I need them for my collection Embarassed

@lauvamp

Hubz did this through Amazon (UK), but I think you could still order through UK, if they deliver? I have both a UK and US account for Amazon, since I am both American and British. clown
@Starliteprism

I live in the US, and I have received deliveries here from Amazon UK. My toddler daughter was really into this British show "Poppy Cat", and no character figurines were sold in America, but they were sold on Amazon UK. If Amazon UK delivers to America, I would be really surprised if they didn't deliver to Spain.
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Post by Starliteprism on Mon 15 Jan - 9:58

@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Starliteprism wrote:
@lauvamp wrote:@Starliteprism

Cool! Can you recommend me a good website to pre-order? I saw them in Amazon UK and USA but not Spain yet Sad (I will ask to a Disney Store in Barcelona). They are too awesome! I need them for my collection Embarassed

@lauvamp

Hubz did this through Amazon (UK), but I think you could still order through UK, if they deliver? I have both a UK and US account for Amazon, since I am both American and British. clown
@Starliteprism

I live in the US, and I have received deliveries here from Amazon UK. My toddler daughter was really into this British show "Poppy Cat", and no character figurines were sold in America, but they were sold on Amazon UK. If Amazon UK delivers to America, I would be really surprised if they didn't deliver to Spain.
@SoloSideCousin

Not sure if I've seen Poppy Cat but then I've seen the name somewhere. My little one mostly watches arty stuff on Youtube kids and Netflix, migrated away from Cbeebies and Milkshake. :-p And yes, some things probably do ship UK>US and vice versa, but some shipping costs, taxes, and import charges can be a bother.
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Mon 15 Jan - 10:20

@Starliteprism wrote:
@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Starliteprism wrote:
@lauvamp wrote:@Starliteprism

Cool! Can you recommend me a good website to pre-order? I saw them in Amazon UK and USA but not Spain yet Sad (I will ask to a Disney Store in Barcelona). They are too awesome! I need them for my collection Embarassed

@lauvamp

Hubz did this through Amazon (UK), but I think you could still order through UK, if they deliver? I have both a UK and US account for Amazon, since I am both American and British. clown
@Starliteprism

I live in the US, and I have received deliveries here from Amazon UK. My toddler daughter was really into this British show "Poppy Cat", and no character figurines were sold in America, but they were sold on Amazon UK. If Amazon UK delivers to America, I would be really surprised if they didn't deliver to Spain.
@SoloSideCousin

Not sure if I've seen Poppy Cat but then I've seen the name somewhere. My little one mostly watches arty stuff on Youtube kids and Netflix, migrated away from Cbeebies and Milkshake. :-p And yes, some things probably do ship UK>US and vice versa, but some shipping costs, taxes, and import charges can be a bother.
@Starliteprism

Poppy Cat is based on a series of children's books that were published in the UK. So you may have seen reference to it that way.

My husband and I really loved Poppy Cat. It was very sweet without being syrupy, and very funny without being silly. There is this great funny antagonist named Egbert that we all loved. When you're in that time period where you have to watch a lot of Kid TV, you're desperate for something that you as an adult can enjoy. Poppy Cat was definitely one of our favorites.

The version we saw aired on the Sprout channel in the US, and possibly aired on NBC on Saturday mornings. Our version changed the accents of some of the characters to American, but several, including Egbert, remained British. I know that the original version was spoken by all British actors. I also know that it was translated into many languages. (My husband used to play an episode in Welsh for my daughter while we were out shopping sometimes. She liked it just the same. Very Happy).

If you are interested, I am sure there are episodes on YouTube.

As for shipping costs, oh yes, I paid extra to have it come from England. No Amazon Prime or US Post Office Priority Mail there, lol. But Poppy Cat was the big hit of that Christmas, so I was happy to pay it since the UK was the only place that had it.
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Post by lauvamp on Mon 15 Jan - 11:26

@SoloSideCousin @Starliteprism

Thanks! I love you Yes, I bought stuff from Amazon USA and UK before, so I will try to find a seller with a reasonable shipping price cat
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Post by Starliteprism on Mon 15 Jan - 11:32

@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Starliteprism wrote:
@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Starliteprism wrote:
@lauvamp wrote:@Starliteprism

Cool! Can you recommend me a good website to pre-order? I saw them in Amazon UK and USA but not Spain yet Sad (I will ask to a Disney Store in Barcelona). They are too awesome! I need them for my collection Embarassed

@lauvamp

Hubz did this through Amazon (UK), but I think you could still order through UK, if they deliver? I have both a UK and US account for Amazon, since I am both American and British. clown
@Starliteprism

I live in the US, and I have received deliveries here from Amazon UK. My toddler daughter was really into this British show "Poppy Cat", and no character figurines were sold in America, but they were sold on Amazon UK. If Amazon UK delivers to America, I would be really surprised if they didn't deliver to Spain.
@SoloSideCousin

Not sure if I've seen Poppy Cat but then I've seen the name somewhere. My little one mostly watches arty stuff on Youtube kids and Netflix, migrated away from Cbeebies and Milkshake. :-p And yes, some things probably do ship UK>US and vice versa, but some shipping costs, taxes, and import charges can be a bother.
@Starliteprism

Poppy Cat is based on a series of children's books that were published in the UK. So you may have seen reference to it that way.

My husband and I really loved Poppy Cat. It was very sweet without being syrupy, and very funny without being silly. There is this great funny antagonist named Egbert that we all loved. When you're in that time period where you have to watch a lot of Kid TV, you're desperate for something that you as an adult can enjoy. Poppy Cat was definitely one of our favorites.

The version we saw aired on the Sprout channel in the US, and possibly aired on NBC on Saturday mornings. Our version changed the accents of some of the characters to American, but several, including Egbert, remained British. I know that the original version was spoken by all British actors. I also know that it was translated into many languages. (My husband used to play an episode in Welsh for my daughter while we were out shopping sometimes. She liked it just the same. Very Happy).

If you are interested, I am sure there are episodes on YouTube.

As for shipping costs, oh yes, I paid extra to have it come from England. No Amazon Prime or US Post Office Priority Mail there, lol. But Poppy Cat was the big hit of that Christmas, so I was happy to pay it since the UK was the only place that had it.
@SoloSideCousin

I just asked my little one, home from school as dealing with her first ear infection (not fun + mommy stressed), if she has heard of Poppy cat, showed a pic online, and she looked clueless. Will check it out.
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Post by Let The Past Die on Mon 15 Jan - 12:50

@Dar-ren19 wrote:okay, a quick few questions and an observation. I'd be grateful if someone can respond... no hurry, though!


What is "ST"? Sorry, indulge me please Smile


@Dar-ren19
I don't think anyone else answered this for you.

ST Sequel Trilogy
OT Original Trilogy
PT Prequel Triology
PG Praetorian Guard.

Hope that helps
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Post by Xylo Ren on Mon 15 Jan - 16:49

So this in VII...

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and this in VIII...

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how will they position yin/yang in IX? Wink
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Post by vaderito on Mon 15 Jan - 17:11

@Xylo Ren wrote:So this in VII...

Romantic Reylo AKA the Who's Your Daddy Thread - Page 38 Reylo_13

and this in VIII...

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how will they position yin/yang in IX? Wink
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Post by SheLitAFire on Mon 15 Jan - 17:15

@Xylo Ren wrote:So this in VII...

Romantic Reylo AKA the Who's Your Daddy Thread - Page 38 Reylo_13

and this in VIII...

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how will they position yin/yang in IX? Wink
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Post by lauvamp on Mon 15 Jan - 18:41

What about that?

https://ionlyknow1truth.tumblr.com/post/169740654074/rian-made-a-reference-to-julia-roberts-anna

“The moment where Kylo makes his appeal of “join me” to Rey, and I think Adam captured it so well on that little please he gives at the end, it was important to me that it wasn’t a chess game… [skip a few lines] It’s a very naked, open emotional appeal. It’s his version of, “I’m just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him [to love her], it’s Kylo’s sick evil version of that. But from his perspective, the same way when he tells his version of the story with Luke, I don’t think he’s lying. That’s his experience of that moment. I think he’s telling it honestly.” - Rian Johnson (transcript from The Empire podcast )

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Post by IoJovi on Mon 15 Jan - 18:49

@lauvamp wrote:What about that?

https://ionlyknow1truth.tumblr.com/post/169740654074/rian-made-a-reference-to-julia-roberts-anna

“The moment where Kylo makes his appeal of “join me” to Rey, and I think Adam captured it so well on that little please he gives at the end, it was important to me that it wasn’t a chess game… [skip a few lines] It’s a very naked, open emotional appeal. It’s his version of, “I’m just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him [to love her], it’s Kylo’s sick evil version of that. But from his perspective, the same way when he tells his version of the story with Luke, I don’t think he’s lying. That’s his experience of that moment. I think he’s telling it honestly.” - Rian Johnson (transcript from The Empire podcast )

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I want to throw this in people’s faces every single time the begging or gaslighting drivel is brought up.  This is such an incredibly beautiful, layered scene and to bring those two false analogies into play just makes it something it isn’t.  Ben is so vulnerable in this scene and his heartbreak at Rey’s rejection is completely on his sleeve.  Rian’s words coincide with my own interpretation completely, and you’ll have to pry that out of my cold dead hands...

Thank you for sharing this!!!  cheers


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Post by ZioRen on Mon 15 Jan - 18:50

@lauvamp wrote:What about that?

https://ionlyknow1truth.tumblr.com/post/169740654074/rian-made-a-reference-to-julia-roberts-anna

“The moment where Kylo makes his appeal of “join me” to Rey, and I think Adam captured it so well on that little please he gives at the end, it was important to me that it wasn’t a chess game… [skip a few lines] It’s a very naked, open emotional appeal. It’s his version of, “I’m just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him [to love her], it’s Kylo’s sick evil version of that. But from his perspective, the same way when he tells his version of the story with Luke, I don’t think he’s lying. That’s his experience of that moment. I think he’s telling it honestly.” - Rian Johnson (transcript from The Empire podcast )

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There's nothing romantic about that at all, nope. Kylo has totally platonic feelings for her. Reylo isn't real yo.

"Sick" and "evil" as it may be, it's difficult and terrifying to make such a raw appeal and bare your soul like that to somebody. It's the absolute worst moment one can possibly be rejected. Thus, the Crait tantrum of the jilted lover.
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Post by lauvamp on Mon 15 Jan - 18:53

@IoJovi

Always happy to share good stuff like that <3

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Super-platonic! Laughing
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Post by MyOnlyHope on Mon 15 Jan - 18:55

@lauvamp wrote:What about that?

https://ionlyknow1truth.tumblr.com/post/169740654074/rian-made-a-reference-to-julia-roberts-anna

“The moment where Kylo makes his appeal of “join me” to Rey, and I think Adam captured it so well on that little please he gives at the end, it was important to me that it wasn’t a chess game… [skip a few lines] It’s a very naked, open emotional appeal. It’s his version of, “I’m just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him [to love her], it’s Kylo’s sick evil version of that. But from his perspective, the same way when he tells his version of the story with Luke, I don’t think he’s lying. That’s his experience of that moment. I think he’s telling it honestly.” - Rian Johnson (transcript from The Empire podcast )

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LOL. Tfw Rian references an enemies to lovers rom com. #JustPlatonicThings

Edit: was thinking of the wrong movie lol. This one's just a straight up, typical rom com from what I remember.
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Post by IoJovi on Mon 15 Jan - 18:58

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@lauvamp wrote:What about that?

https://ionlyknow1truth.tumblr.com/post/169740654074/rian-made-a-reference-to-julia-roberts-anna

“The moment where Kylo makes his appeal of “join me” to Rey, and I think Adam captured it so well on that little please he gives at the end, it was important to me that it wasn’t a chess game… [skip a few lines] It’s a very naked, open emotional appeal. It’s his version of, “I’m just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him [to love her], it’s Kylo’s sick evil version of that. But from his perspective, the same way when he tells his version of the story with Luke, I don’t think he’s lying. That’s his experience of that moment. I think he’s telling it honestly.” - Rian Johnson (transcript from The Empire podcast )

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LOL. Tfw Rian references an enemies to lovers rom com. #JustPlatonicThings

Edit: was thinking of the wrong movie lol. This one's just a straight up, typical rom com from what I remember.
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I had to look that quote up because while I recognized it, I couldn't place it.  The movie is Notting Hill with Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant.  It's been years since I've seen it but yeah - it's a straight up rom com.  Laughing
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Post by Piper Maru on Mon 15 Jan - 19:01

HA! First Pablo mentions the iconic Michael/Kay breakup from The Godfather and now the director is quoting the iconic love declaration from Notting Hill?

But nope. Not romantic. At all. Laughing
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Post by lauvamp on Mon 15 Jan - 19:02

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hahaha yes! I remember well this emotional and sincere scene from the movie, that's very sweet of Rian to make such a comparison.
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