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Post by panki on Sun 08 May 2016, 10:30 pm

Mod Note: This is the place to share your speculation about the title of Ep IX, which has a working title of "Black Diamond".

Going by the T-R-A formula (since the PT was TAR and OT was ART), maybe titles could be....

Episode 8
Rage of the Dark
Rule of the First Order

Episode 9
A New Order/Dawn
Ascent of the Force/Jedi

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Maria Antonietta on Mon 09 May 2016, 10:05 am

VIII The attack of the Reylos
IX Reylo is canon
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Post by snufkin on Tue 10 May 2016, 8:47 pm

Honestly I just want IX to be Leia and Rey go Thelma and Louise in the MF.
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Kylo Rey on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 3:53 pm

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Post by MyOnlyHope on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 3:56 pm

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Darth Dingbat on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 3:59 pm

@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Darth_Awakened on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:01 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
@Darth Dingbat

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Darth Dingbat on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:02 pm

OVERTHINKING CAP WORKED REALLY FAST

(well, it was Google but anyways)

As a real, natural diamond, these stones share all of the same meanings and symbolism as traditional white diamonds, such as strength, wisdom, eternity, and everlasting love. Italians in medieval times believed that black diamonds wielded the power to restore the relationship of a married couple, and the Black Orlov diamond had a reputation for bestowing happiness and good fortune on anyone who touched it.
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Post by MyOnlyHope on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:02 pm

I guess we can start by just researching the symbolism behind black diamonds. Ah, overanalyzing for two more years. Razz

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Maria Antonietta on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:02 pm

@Darth_Awakened wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
@Darth Dingbat

@Darth_Awakened

A DARK CRYSTAL!!!!!
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:03 pm

Black Diamond, huh?  That's intriguing!

Did we ever figure out why TLJ was called Space Bear?
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Darth Dingbat on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:03 pm

@Maria Antonietta wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
@Darth Dingbat

@Darth_Awakened

A DARK CRYSTAL!!!!!
@Maria Antonietta

*falls off her chair in a swoon*
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by reylo1992 on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:03 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Piper Maru wrote:My prediction for IX is a long-time headcanon:

Kylo's big sacrifice and act of selflessness involves him choosing to be free of the Force (by whatever plot device they find convenient). It would 1) turn the whole lineage thing upside down (the prodigal son who decides not to be one anymore) 2) free him from the Skywalker karma 3) make him 100% like his father -- a common man, no Force, no ultra galactic goals.
@Piper Maru

I agree on this. Free to be human.
@Darth Dingbat

Agree too. Both Kylo and Rey giving up together on their power for the sake of the galaxy and their potential children.
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by Gemlake on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:04 pm

@reylo1992

Yes, I've thought of that, too, i.e. how Reylo, plus Kylo dying, could give Rey a happy ending.  First, Luke's father died in front of him at the end of ROTJ, and no one questioned that Luke got his happy ending.  Of course, Luke had Leia, but Rey has Finn and now Poe.  Second, I hate to be sexist, but men sometimes have a different understanding of "romance."  It often includes death.  See Romeo and Juliet, Titanic, Rebecca, etc. So even fully developed Reylo might not guarantee Kylo surviving Episode IX.

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by ZioRen on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:05 pm

@MyOnlyHope wrote:I guess we can start by just researching the symbolism behind black diamonds. Ah, overanalyzing for two more years. Razz

@MyOnlyHope

Let me pretend to be serious about my speculation for a moment:

CLEARLY this title represents that Kylo and Rey are going to have their relationship restored.

And clearly it also means that Kylo as a black diamond will end up no less strong, wise, and in love as Rey's white diamond.

REYLO AF. CASE CLOSED.
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by MyOnlyHope on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:05 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Maria Antonietta wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
@Darth Dingbat

@Darth_Awakened

A DARK CRYSTAL!!!!!
@Maria Antonietta

*falls off her chair in a swoon*
@Darth Dingbat
OMG TRUE!

The coming together of the Skeksis and the Mystics. J.J. honey pls.



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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by reylo1992 on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Maria Antonietta wrote:
@Darth_Awakened wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@Kylo Rey

Quick, let's put on our overthinking caps and we'll crack this in two years!!
@Darth Dingbat

@Darth_Awakened

A DARK CRYSTAL!!!!!
@Maria Antonietta

*falls off her chair in a swoon*
@Darth Dingbat

Gee! I hope that the kyber crystal will have an importance ultimately. That was already on my bingo for TLJ and I was disappointed thatthe movie didn't explore the Force plot more bounce bounce bounce
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Post by EchoBase on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:06 pm

@ZioRen wrote:Black Diamond, huh?  That's intriguing!

Did we ever figure out why TLJ was called Space Bear?
@ZioRen

Yes, we did. Space bear = Panda = Yin/Yang.

When I read Black Diamond, I had to think of Kylo....and of the second SATC film.
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by reylo1992 on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:08 pm

Let's keep in mind that Snoke had a black kyber crystal. I wonder whether it was meant to have some importance or not.
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:08 pm

@DarthRen
@DarthRen wrote:
@Gemlake wrote:@Saracene

I found Rey compelling in TFA.  Her intoductory sequence in particular is pure genius.  But unfortunately, I have to agree with you concernng TLJ. Her character development took a back seat to Kylo and Luke's arc.

After seeing TLJ, I can see why Daisy started to cry when learning that JJ would return for Episode IX.
@Gemlake

Daisy also felt more close to JJ than Rian, they started this whole thing. I get your point but Kylo could get sidelined as the result, like he did in TFA.
@DarthRen
As the only surviving Skywalker in the Skywalker saga there's absolutely no way Kylo is getting sidelined in IX. If anything he's going to have the biggest role alongside Rey once again because even Luke is gone (he'll appear as a Force Ghost, but TLJ was his movie, IX won't be). Kylo was created by JJ and Kathleen Kennedy and they'll finish his arc the way they intended to.

The major ideas going into this saga were:

1) A young female Force user's journey to finding her place in the galaxy
2) A young male Skywalker villain's journey from rebellious youth to fully realized adulthood
3) The Force as a romantic/sexual awakening for both the female Force user and the male Skywalker
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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by MyOnlyHope on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:08 pm

J.J. pls.

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Re: Black Diamond: Episode IX Title Speculation

Post by reylo1992 on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:11 pm

@ZioRen wrote:
@MyOnlyHope wrote:I guess we can start by just researching the symbolism behind black diamonds. Ah, overanalyzing for two more years. Razz

@MyOnlyHope

Let me pretend to be serious about my speculation for a moment:

CLEARLY this title represents that Kylo and Rey are going to have their relationship restored.

And clearly it also means that Kylo as a black diamond will end up no less strong, wise, and in love as Rey's white diamond.

REYLO AF. CASE CLOSED.
@ZioRen

YES!!!

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Post by reylo1992 on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:12 pm

@MyOnlyHope wrote:J.J. pls.

@MyOnlyHope

Interesting. Anakin's lightsaber ended up split broken in two. Foreshadowing?


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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:14 pm

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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Sun 17 Dec 2017, 4:21 pm

A "black diamond" can also mean a highly challenging ski run.

As far as Snoke's black kyber crystal ring, I can't say that I even noticed it in TLJ. It certainly didn't serve any sort of plot point.
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