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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by Teo oswald on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 1:49 am

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Ben with facial hair at the very end, signifying that he's now a MAAAN
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exactly what I was thinking
in the end we understand that he is now grown, the transition from adolescent to man, not only mentally but also physically Smile

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I am convinced that Ben will eventually drive his father's spaceship, with Rey at his side, we will also see some jokes on the MF Smile





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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by Kessel on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 3:28 am

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@Darth_marshmallow wrote:After the „Solo” trailer I’ve been wondering why Chewie is still sticking around after Han’s death? Yes, he's commited to the Resistance but is it the main reason? If Han rescues from slavery not only Chewie but also his wife and son (I believe the Star Wars Christmas special is canon), maybe Chewie’s life debt includes not only Han but his family also?
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Chewie and Rey seem pretty attached to each other. I got the impression that Chewie has stuck around post-Han's-death so far out of loyalty to/wanting to help Rey.
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In-universe, this is the likely reason, while the out-of-universe reason would be because TPTB and the audience want him be part of the story. I want to keep seeing Chewie in the ST, but I hope he gets to see his family again too.

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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by MrsWindu on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 2:06 pm

@Saracene wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if we see Ben with facial hair at the very end, signifying that he's now a MAAAN Smile
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by rawpowah on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 3:07 pm

I don't know if I want Kylo with facial hair or not. He might look too much like Adam on Girls lol.
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by DeeBee on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 6:45 pm

Maybe I've been fooled and this is not legit. LOL. but there was this concept art for TLJ that had what looks to me like a beard on Kylo.
I like it!


I can't directly link the image.. this was the source: https://dark-and-light-rise.tumblr.com/image/170227550507
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Post by liveinsummee on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 10:58 am

It's been a while since i visited this forum, i'm lurking nowadays.. Whether Kylo will be Clean shaved back to TFA kind style or beard to show more adult.. Even just stubbles..

As long they, stylist, JJ.. Keep Kylo Ren's fabulous soft hair and not bald.. I'm okay. Hahahah XD
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by snufkin on Tue 17 Apr 2018, 9:17 pm

One question I have after finishing Jason Fry's novel with the PoVs presented for characters like Peavey, Hux, and Snoke is what's going to happen with the First Order. Because all the "Welp Kylo's the Big Bad becuz he didn't listen to Rey" conclusions seem a little, IDK? Simplistic? Also not paying attention to all the dagger looks Hux throws him before and after the 'almost shot him' moment or Peavey rolling his eyes behind Hux's back. The novel makes it pretty clear that the First Order only survived this long because of Snoke's intervention/knowledge of the Unknown Regions and that the leadership structure was a succession of power plays/backstabbing with him the last one standing. And that his whole goal was about consolidating and extending his own personal power, with manipulating both Hux and Kylo to serve those ends. The whole PoV in the Throne Room seems to be "...well maybe he's not a screw up after all and I may think about keeping him around after I have him kill this girl from Jakku who could've been useful, but who stands in my way." Like Han's dying warning was pretty f**king prophetic, Snoke was in this only for himself. Add in the Peavey and Hux PoVs about what they think is going to mean a successful take over of the galaxy and building a new Empire (very different ideas) and Holdo wiping out their mobile capital. IX has to throw all of this into the mix, doesn't it?
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by Rei of Sunshine on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 4:43 am

A prediction I came up with just now is Kylo would have a death scene, and he'll be stabbed through the heart by none other that his own lightsaber. I see Hux going cray-cray and stabbing Kylo yhrough the back, maybe even with Rey watching.

It would be a poetic 'death' as his biggest regret so far was killing Han, and to die the same way would be symbolic of repaying his debt. "An Eye for an Eye"

But Rey will be able to bring him back by the Force. Not the way the Jedi or Sith would, but by simply tapping into the pure Force.

This could work with the "Harry Potter" death, where Kylo might even see Anakin or Luke and have a choice to go back or move on.
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by Darth_marshmallow on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 6:25 am

@Rei of Sunshine wrote:A prediction I came up with just now is Kylo would have a death scene, and he'll be stabbed through the heart by none other that his own lightsaber. I see Hux going cray-cray and stabbing Kylo yhrough the back, maybe even with Rey watching.

It would be a poetic 'death' as his biggest regret so far was killing Han, and to die the same way would be symbolic of repaying his debt. "An Eye for an Eye"

But Rey will be able to bring him back by the Force. Not the way the Jedi or Sith would, but by simply tapping into the pure Force.

This could work with the "Harry Potter" death, where Kylo might even see Anakin or Luke and have a choice to go back or move on.
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I have a similar scenario in my mind. I‘m predicting there will be a showdown between the First Order technology vs the Force. I’m certain that Hux has some super duper weapon stashed away just for the occasion and will try to use it to bend the whole Galaxy to his will (or destroy it). Kylo will be the only one able to stop him. As a consequence, he will be severly wounded. At this point I believe the audience will be cheering for Ben to live.
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by ISeeAnIsland on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 10:44 am

@Darth_marshmallow wrote:
@Rei of Sunshine wrote:A prediction I came up with just now is Kylo would have a death scene, and he'll be stabbed through the heart by none other that his own lightsaber. I see Hux going cray-cray and stabbing Kylo yhrough the back, maybe even with Rey watching.

It would be a poetic 'death' as his biggest regret so far was killing Han, and to die the same way would be symbolic of repaying his debt. "An Eye for an Eye"

But Rey will be able to bring him back by the Force. Not the way the Jedi or Sith would, but by simply tapping into the pure Force.

This could work with the "Harry Potter" death, where Kylo might even see Anakin or Luke and have a choice to go back or move on.
@Rei of Sunshine

I have a similar scenario in my mind. I‘m predicting there will be a showdown between the First Order technology vs the Force. I’m certain that Hux has some super duper weapon stashed away just for the occasion and will try to use it to bend the whole Galaxy to his will (or destroy it). Kylo will be the only one able to stop him. As a consequence, he will be severly wounded. At this point I believe the audience will be cheering for Ben to live.
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Oh heck yeah, the audience will be cheering for Ben. They were cheering for him in the PG scene in TLJ.

I saw TLJ 5 times in the theatre...in every single showing, when Ben takes out the last guard with the lightsaber-through-the-face, the audience erupted in cheers.
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by olyer on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 11:08 am

"But Rey will be able to bring him back by the Force. Not the way the Jedi or Sith would, but by simply tapping into the pure Force. "

I thought a really cool thing to do might be to have Rey call upon the Force and have it be represented by Force Ghosts - Anakin, Obi-Wan, Luke, Leia - all helping her Force-heal him. That'd give the message that the Force wanted him alive. Maybe that's why there's a rumor of Yoda coming back--maybe they'd have him be a representative of the Force, too.

If I really wanted to go all out, I would even bring in images of every Jedi or Sith ever to be in the EU, including animated images. Kind of like The Day of the Doctor (Doctor Who) bringing in all the Doctors.

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Post by Rei of Sunshine on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 1:17 pm

@olyer wrote:"But Rey will be able to bring him back by the Force. Not the way the Jedi or Sith would, but by simply tapping into the pure Force. "

I thought a really cool thing to do might be to have Rey call upon the Force and have it be represented by Force Ghosts - Anakin, Obi-Wan, Luke, Leia - all helping her Force-heal him. That'd give the message that the Force wanted him alive. Maybe that's why there's a rumor of Yoda coming back--maybe they'd have him be a representative of the Force, too.

If I really wanted to go all out, I would even bring in images of every Jedi or Sith ever to be in the EU, including animated images. Kind of like The Day of the Doctor (Doctor Who) bringing in all the Doctors.
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Yeah sort of like the Avatar State when Korra got cut off from all her past lives and she saw all of them disappear (although not sad like this).

FG is like next level Force business. So maybe if Ben does sacrifice himself in a way, or has redeemed himself somewhat, the Force Ghosts offer him a chance to experience their realm.

Imagine Anakin telling him he's a proud grandpa. And Anakin holds out his hand for Ben to join him among the powerful and wise Force Ghosts and never have to suffer again.
and that's like FanBoy Dream Come True for Ben Solo. To be acknowledged and welcomed by his grandfather.

But he declines Anakin's offer of peace and power, and goes back to Rey to be mortal and accept whatever consequences await him.

I'll sob in the cinema when that happens.
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by californiagirl on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 1:18 am

It's been mentioned a few times here that Kasdan is responsible for many of the themes and developments of the ST. I'm less familiar with the background of TFA, so does anyone know to what extent he was involved? I know he was a producer, then he and JJ became the screenwriters when Michael Ardnt left.

Was it the dynamic between Rey and Kylo that he made? Were Rey and Kylo themselves JJ's creations, or did Kasdan, the Story Group, KK, etc. have major input?

It seems relevant given that Kasdan isn't formally part of the ST anymore, as he went on to do Solo, and everyone moved on without him. I'd like to think that JJ will be fine without him on IX.
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Post by special_cases on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 6:13 am

@californiagirl Oh this is the only one fear I have about IX. I see a lot of Kasdan's work in Kylo - and Rian did his job well, but there were moments in TLJ when Kylo is very underdeveloped for "mystery" purpose (f.e. shirtless scene)... Kasdan wrote the bridge scene in TFA and I'm sure that Kasdan was involved in writing Interrogation scene...
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Re: Predictions for Episode 9

Post by DeeBee on Thu 26 Apr 2018, 6:55 pm

This is an interesting conversation and it sparked a wish for Episode IX so thought I'd put it in this thread. Hope that's okay. Definitely just a wish and not a spoiler (I wish!)  Very Happy
conversation from spoilers thread- spoilered for brevity:

@EchoBase wrote:
@Kylo Rey wrote:
@californiagirl wrote:
@Kylo Rey wrote:The best suggestion I've seen wrt to the whole Leia/Carrie situation is to cast a younger actress to play Leia in a flashback with young Ben or maybe even a dream Kylo has. One thing I really want to see featured in IX is Ben's home world, Chandrila. Especially with all the imagery it would symbolise (greenery therefore life and rebirth unlike all the harsh, artificial planets we've mostly seen him on like Starkiller Base or Crait or the cold metal of the Supremacy/Finalizer.)
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Chandrila is also on my wish list. It would be symbolic given that we began the series on Jakku, a desert planet, at night, in a battle, while Kylo has the mask on and is in full wannabe dark lord mode... really the most hostile conditions and scenario imaginable.

So to end with redeemed (and maskless!) Ben with Rey on a lush planet like his homeworld Chandrila, or perhaps an Ach-To appearance, would make obvious narrative sense.
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It was pretty much inspired by this wonderful post:




It makes too much sense and would be absolutely poetic. Especially as one of the rumoured locations is Rest and be Thankful in Scotland, which looks like this:



'Chandrila was a small blue-green planet with calm seas and rolling hills. It had mild seasonal weather and rarely experienced dangerous weather conditions.'
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Oh that would be cool. I will be there in a few weeks, I will check!
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I need to learn more about Chandrila, so this is interesting info! Thanks for sharing Kylo Rey.
I agree with you guys-  the idea of ending in a lush, fertile environment would be wonderful.

My dream scenario is for the ST to end on a restored Jakku. So I'm going to go with this prediction.  
That may sound really weird.. but... I heard that in it's distant past Jakku was a lush, green planet - Apparently this is in Empire's end.. I really need to read the Aftermath trilogy!
I found the reference in the book online so thought I'd share it.. but.. I can't give this context.

The force is strong with this one  Laughing  It doesn't look it but underneath there is much life!
Soooooo something happened to it the surface life. It's like the hearts of Jakku the planet and it's inhabitants have been broken and they are waiting, hoping for restoration, peace and an end to their suffering...
I'm not up on the history in detail, but I like the idea that the ST could end with Rey's home planet being restored to it's former glory somehow- We could end with a glimpse of Jakku with new life sprouting up all over the place.. water collecting.. rains falling..
Maybe 'the balance' that it seems Rey and Kylo/Ben will mysteriously bring to the galaxy, will enable this.

It would be a wonderful closure to Rey's story.. the plight of people on Jakku, and her parent's own (likely) desperate lives which impacted Rey tragically.. it would be healing and a wonderful metaphor. I love Kylo/Ben - but not everything has to be a metaphor for part of his journey. We had that metaphor with starkiller.. Now I want Rey's planetary metaphor to bring her story to a conclusion. It also brings the story of imbalance and war in the galaxy to a conclusion.

Plus, it is would be a fabulous play on the joke about going back to Jakku! Very Happy

Oh my.. nearly less than 600 days till episode IX!!!
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