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Post by 12 Parsnips on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:50 pm

@motherofpearl1 wrote:I've just read an article in which a journalist described several points which proved Rian wasn't completely altering in TLJ what JJ began in TFA. He mentioned that Luke's reaction to seeing Rey at the end heralded his behaviour towards her and the dark secret which explained his choosing to exile himself, as well as it was 'obvious' Rey's parents weren't going to be very important as Maz herself stressed that the belonging she sought  lay ahead not behind her.
But when he claimed Rey's belonging was represented by the Resistance, which were now her family, I think he was mistaken. I'll never forget the sad look on her face as she watched Finn tending Rose. She very obviously envied what they had found in each other.

Even among friends Rey seemed isolated. Because let's face it, none of the Resistance are Force sensitive except Leia. And with Leia gone, Rey has no one to understand. Except the man who's on the opposite side. In her way she's as lonely as Ben Solo.
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I've found that a lot of males think that Rey has everything she needs in the Resistance at the end of TLJ. Maybe it takes seeing with the female gaze to recognize (and empathize with?) her loneliness and isolation? I don't know--the look on her face seemed to communicate her isolation so clearly to me that I can't understand how people miss it.
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Post by Gemini on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 3:04 pm

@KiraRen2015 wrote:@Gemini Have you seen the description of it on the Mondo website? They even use the words "infamous thigh grab" in it!
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He grabs her thigh?
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Post by KiraRen2015 on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 3:08 pm

@Gemini Lol no. The "thigh grab" has been the term for that scene (mostly by Reylos) because when she jumps on his back to kick the guard, she grabs his leg. It's just nice to see that referenced by an article I guess.

The painting itself is beautiful! Too bad it's only available at Texas Comic Con. I hope there'll be some available online afterwards.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 3:13 pm

I really like Kylo Ren with his hair all over his face!
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Post by Gemini on Fri 13 Sep 2019, 4:30 pm

@KiraRen2015 wrote:@Gemini Lol no. The "thigh grab" has been the term for that scene (mostly by Reylos) because when she jumps on his back to kick the guard, she grabs his leg. It's just nice to see that referenced by an article I guess.

The painting itself is beautiful! Too bad it's only available at Texas Comic Con. I hope there'll be some available online afterwards.
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Lol, I never saw that! I'll look out for it.
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Post by snufkin on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 1:13 pm

I don't know who here has seen the classic late 80s romantic comedy-drama, Moonstruck, but it was on TV the other day and I realized that it's another set of movie references which got dropped into TLJ



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I wouldn't be inclined to think that this was just a coincidence if not for the # of times Rian has tweeted about being an opera fan, including going to the Metropolitan Opera House in New York (the location where Moonstruck's illicit lovers on the opposite side of a family estrangement go on their hand holding assignation) this past Spring to watch the Ring Cycle. Also his Rolling Stone interview talked about the actual operatic elements of the Saga. Also fun fact - both the original Star Wars and Moonstruck were championed/brought to production by Alan Ladd, Jr.
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Post by MrsWindu on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 3:16 pm

@snufkin OOH wow good catch - I haven't seen Moonstruck in years
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Post by snufkin on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 6:26 pm

@MrsWindu I couldn't find any interviews/social media posts from Rian where he mentions it specifically. But as a self professed musicals nerd, he's a huge fan of the director, Norman Jewison, who did Fiddler on the Roof. But it's a little too on the nose with how some of the shots are similar, especially when he did say in the press for TLJ that one of the elements of the Saga he wanted to get across was the 'operatics' of it all.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 2:31 am

I can't help but think re watching TLJ that if Kylo is a cynic, Rey is the naive one.
She wanted Ben to leave the FO.....but what would have become of him if he had? I doubt if even Leia would have welcomed him with open arms.

If the leaks from TROS are correct and Hux is captured by the Resistance I wonder if seeing the way they treat him will make Rey realise Kylo couldn't have returned with her.
Just a thought.
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Post by rey09 on Fri 18 Oct 2019, 10:34 pm

I randomly came across this on youtube, saw Atonement once years ago when I was way younger. I saw his fists and totally thought of Kylo XD. Also similar thinking process with the water. Ah the sexual frustration...


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Post by MrsWindu on Sun 27 Oct 2019, 3:04 pm

I must have watched this scene dozens of times but WoW I’ve never noticed before that Rey is the one take her hand away first when Luke appears. Kylo’s is still suspended there for much longer, it makes me catch my breath. Thank you to @gwendy85 for her recent slo mo gifs

https://gwendy85.tumblr.com/post/188623415998
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