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Post by Forsythia on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 2:57 pm

@spacebaby45678 Did you just spoil the movie? Evil or Very Mad
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Post by BigDeal2187 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 3:14 pm

@spacebaby45678 wrote:
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Yes he did..... Rey Palps with Anakin's saber.. lord have mercy.. why did Anakin's saber call to her?  I don't want to think about it because it renders the saga meaningless...

Obi Wan to Anakin.. this saber is your life.. and someday a Palpatine will use it to stab your grandson

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I think it's quite clear now that Rey Palpatine was a decision that was made after TLJ.

"Rey...PALPATINE... these are your first steps."  "That lightsaber was Luke's and his father's before him, and now it calls to you, Rey PALPATINE!" No way, José.
And if RJ didn't want Rey to get the easy answer to her family then why didn't he reveal that her grandfather was an evil sith lord?

Had they prepared the audience for Rey Palpatine back in TFA then I might be ok with it. But it seems like DLF made a business decision about her backstory after the TLJ backlash instead of letting JJ do what he originally planned which I honestly don't believe was Rey Palpatine.

I think I need to step away from Star Wars for a little while.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 3:21 pm

@BigDeal2187 wrote:
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Yes he did..... Rey Palps with Anakin's saber.. lord have mercy.. why did Anakin's saber call to her?  I don't want to think about it because it renders the saga meaningless...

Obi Wan to Anakin.. this saber is your life.. and someday a Palpatine will use it to stab your grandson

@spacebaby45678

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I think it's quite clear now that Rey Palpatine was a decision that was made after TLJ.

"Rey...PALPATINE... these are your first steps."  "That lightsaber was Luke's and his father's before him, and now it calls to you, Rey PALPATINE!" No way, José.
And if RJ didn't want Rey to get the easy answer to her family then why didn't he reveal that her grandfather was an evil sith lord?

Had they prepared the audience for Rey Palpatine back in TFA then I might be ok with it. But it seems like DLF made a business decision about her backstory after the TLJ backlash instead of letting JJ do what he originally planned which I honestly don't believe was Rey Palpatine.

I think I need to step away from Star Wars for a little while.
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Everything you said is so right on it is not funny.. DLF will try to recontextualize all of foreshadowing post TROS.. I won't be around for any of it.. I am done and done... it's a new year and a new decade... and the great thing is letting go allows us to bring in something new...

Love all that you have contributed over the years..will miss all the friends that I have made along the way...
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 3:46 pm

TROS thoughts:
I think the only way I can deal with it is by believing Ben isn't dead.....he was never seen as a Force ghost and Maul survived, why not Ben?

As for Rey....?I'm sad to say I'm not a Reylo fan anymore. Not interested in her, she's too unrelatable.
Hopefully Ben's story will continue. Poe and the rest of them can disappear into the sands of Jakku for all I care.
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Post by TheBastardofMandalore on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 3:57 pm

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I’ve had fun these past several years with you all. It’s been a blast friends. Like you, I’m done though. This long game, constipated storytelling is getting frustrating. I know they are not done with Rey’s story because we have more questions than answers. The ending to the trilogy seems like such a cluster f@*k! I’ll reserve final judgment for when I go see it on Sunday. At least I have the Clone Wars and the Mandalorian to look forward to. Thank God, or whatever higher power, that Dave Filoni is at the helm on those shows.

Anyways, I love you all! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I love you
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 4:32 pm

@Forsythia wrote:@spacebaby45678 Did you just spoil the movie? Evil or Very Mad
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My apologies.. Embarassed
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 4:33 pm

@TheBastardofMandalore wrote:@spacebaby45678
@BigDeal2187
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I’ve had fun these past several years with you all. It’s been a blast friends. Like you, I’m done though. This long game, constipated storytelling is getting frustrating. I know they are not done with Rey’s story because we have more questions than answers. The ending to the trilogy seems like such a cluster f@*k! I’ll reserve final judgment for when I go see it on Sunday. At least I have the Clone Wars and the Mandalorian to look forward to. Thank God, or whatever higher power, that Dave Filoni is at the helm on those shows.

Anyways, I love you all! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I love you
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Same friend.. Merry Christmas.. This is the way!
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Post by Forsythia on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 4:42 pm

@spacebaby45678 wrote:
@Forsythia wrote:@spacebaby45678 Did you just spoil the movie? Evil or Very Mad
@Forsythia

My apologies.. Embarassed
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Could you please edit your previous post and put it in spoiler tags? This part of the forum is supposed to be the spoiler free section.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 17 Dec 2019, 5:16 pm

TROS thoughts:
I might be wrong but I have a strong feeling Disney/LF are going to regret this.
Just about every person I've spoken to loves Kylo's character, but are less enthusiastic about the others. And these aren't old f***s like me, but young people.
This film is going to start off a big box office draw then it will fall dramatically.
Nobody wants to be depressed at Christmas. And take it from me, this story is depressing.
Even in GoT, Dany's story arc was foreshadowed earlier in the series. But from TFAv onwards everything pointed to a Beauty and the Beast storyline between Rey and Kylo. And they crushed it.

Why oh why build everyone's hopes up then destroy them?
Does it amuse them? Does deliberately making a saga built on hope end in such a miserable way make them feel good?
Do they think it's fun ruining people's Christmas? Because that's what they've done to me. And many others, I suspect. To do it at any time of the year is unfair but at Christmas... unforgivable.

The smirks on the faces of the director and company boss now take on a whole new meaning. Star Wars meant a lot to me on a personal level. The lesson I've learned is that in this harsh new world we aren't allowed to dream.
I'll stick around for a while, but the magic has gone for me.

Have a peaceful New Year, folks.
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Post by cherrylipstick on Wed 18 Dec 2019, 1:23 am

Hi guys I've edited some posts because this a spoiler free thread. So please remember to use the spoiler code, even for your personal thoughts because they can be quite revealing. Thanks
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Wed 18 Dec 2019, 1:36 am

Actually thanks for doing that instead of removing my posts, I still haven't got the hang of the spoiler tags (my age is showing.)
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Post by Gemini on Thu 19 Dec 2019, 2:54 am

God this could have been such beautiful Reylo had the force awakens themes and character paths been kept and not allowed to change.

The key elements for rey kenobi were there, easily could have fit but it's like they forced
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a palpatine into it unnaturally

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saber and tatooine were all there for it to end with rey kenobi and the last Skywalker to end up where they started.

But it was all given to a
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palpatine alone
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Thu 19 Dec 2019, 4:21 am

@gemini

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the last battle of the 42 year saga is palpatine vs palpatine.. is the most ridiculous ting I have ever heard.. a palpatine beign the emotional connection.. the twins standing there and smiling at a palpatine from lukes home? the lars homestead has no relationshipt to anakin or leia.. it litterally makes no sense.. my mind is blown.. the answer was easy
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Post by Gemini on Thu 19 Dec 2019, 5:42 am

The shameless desperate last minute  pimping of rey kenobi  (that jedi mind trick)scene to get you in the seats just does it for me...wtf JJ? Appalling thing to do. Also the sympathetic  kylo scene pimping because the Trio as well as Rey You Know who
..FAILS..its like they realised 2 days before the movie..."oh s*** people are  not buying tickets we should have stuck with the original idea, better lie and sell it as that to get their asses in seats"
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Thu 19 Dec 2019, 2:06 pm

@Gemini wrote:The shameless desperate last minute  pimping of rey kenobi  (that jedi mind trick)scene to get you in the seats just does it for me...wtf JJ? Appalling thing to do. Also the sympathetic  kylo scene pimping because the Trio as well as Rey You Know who
..FAILS..its like they realised 2 days before the movie..."oh s*** people are  not buying tickets we should have stuck with the original idea, better lie and sell it as that to get their asses in seats"
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Thu 19 Dec 2019, 2:20 pm

According to some comments on YouTube tickets aren't selling well, but that might not be legit.
I will say - when I went to the cinema there were a number of kids there but they were going to see Jumanji Two.
One did tell me they were seeing TROS later however.
Let's hope they don't get depressed.
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Post by fuhry on Fri 20 Dec 2019, 8:45 am

@motherofpearl1 There definitely wasn't the frenzy of fans outside, in costume and stuff, like for the last two movies.

I guess it's to be expected.  I think a documentary will come out about the chaotic and hodgepodge way this whole thing came together.  In retrospect I think the "Let's have 3 different people do the three different movies" didn't work out so well.  It was an interesting experiment though.

Anyway

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With a very view alterations to that movie, it could have been Rey Kenobi.  It made sense because Palpatine rose to ultimate power by splitting up the awesome Skywalker/Kenobi team.  Ben and Rey could have come together in a reunion to finally take Palps out.  He could have countered by trying to suck their combined energy.  A lot of people said that showing a Kenobi lineage was too complicated a story to tell in one movie, but the one they told was way more complicated.  

Also, one of the big problems with Reylo was that it was hard to see how Finn and Poe could ever accept Bendemption.  However, as it turned out, Rey ends up alone without them anyway.  Why couldn't Ben have survived to inhabit the Lars homestead with Rey?  Like for instance - Ben doesn't disappear.  He just passes out, so you don't know what happens.  After the resistance celebration, in the Tatooine scene, you see Rey, the camera pans back, and Ben, in white, is standing next to her.  It's a bit more of a controversial ending.  But I think it would have worked, and would have worked even better if they had paced Ben's redemption a bit better.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Fri 20 Dec 2019, 2:30 pm

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Frankly I refuse to believe Ben is dead  as we never saw his Force ghost and Rey ends up without any body else as a potential love interest.
Whatever..... it's unforgivable how they ended the film.
Star Wars used to be uplifting. They ended to Skywalker saga in a thoroughly depressing manner, and to do that at Christmas....awful.  Just awful.
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Post by Gemini on Fri 20 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm

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It was horrible for Rey as well when  she finds out shes a palp. When she looked past palpatine to the clear sky and stars and heard Obi Wan help her first. I just knew it was meant to be her lion king "remember who you are moment" and she roars. But it's gone,. They made it about all the jedi. It's so impersonal and lacking. She needed a bright lineage, she needed strength from it. Ben would still be alive if they stuck with rey kenobi, I'm sure of it Sad
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Fri 20 Dec 2019, 3:40 pm

One of my biggest beefs - did we really need that much Poe?
If Rey was the Mary Sue of this trilogy then Poe was it's male counterparts.
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