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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Man Without A Star on Sat 10 Mar 2018, 2:01 am

My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Darth_marshmallow on Sat 10 Mar 2018, 1:36 pm

I've come to the conclusion that Finn would have probably died in vain. The canon was already heating up and it was too late to try to destroy it. Rose emphasized it by saying to Finn "I've saved you, dummy!"
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Good-olio Raeh on Sat 10 Mar 2018, 1:47 pm

@Darth_marshmallow I think she saved them all.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Sat 10 Mar 2018, 8:03 pm

@Good-olio Raeh wrote: I was wondering if Finn went ahead and “sacrificed” himself, would that sacrifice be in vain, for wouldn’t it have caused a massive explosion killing everyone on Crait?

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Hi Good-olio Raeh, funny you should ask this, I was just listening to the Scavenger's Hoard podcast episode discussing Finn and Rose - they talked about this. It's very good and I'd recommend it.
Though they don't actually start talking about Finn and Rose till a way into the podcast - it is worth a listen I htink.
They seemed to think Finn's death would have been pointless... and I agree with them, this was how I viewed it too.

I did at some point discuss/play around with ideas about Finn's momentary decision to sacrifice his life there as he continued on toward the canon - it hasn't been the focus of much discussion I think... but it is an interesting topic to discuss for sure! I think all discussion about Finn has been merged into this thread here:

http://reylo.skyforum.net/t82p450-discussion-finn-fn-2187-john-boyega
(and this thread may be merged into it eventually too) - so maybe a read of that thread and asking about this there might help..
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Sat 10 Mar 2018, 8:05 pm

@Man Without A Star wrote:My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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lol my sister said the same thing! My answer was that the FO were so focused on the big picture they didn't notice two little people in the foreground.. lol.. umm that's the best I've got! Wink
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Let The Past Die on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 12:29 am

@DeeBee wrote:
@Man Without A Star wrote:My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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lol my sister said the same thing! My answer was that the FO were so focused on the big picture they didn't notice two little people in the foreground.. lol.. umm that's the best I've got! Wink
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Funny, I thought the same thing.

Here is what it says in Jason Fry's novel.

Finn double-checked that Rose wouldn’t fall off the contraption he’d rigged, tilted the travois, and began to pull it behind him, hurrying across the salt plains toward the distant lines of the trenches. He kept glancing at the towering walkers, fearing that at any moment one of the huge, animal-like heads would tilt their way and open fire. But the walkers simply trudged along without taking any apparent notice of them. After a moment he realized why. They don’t think we matter. Because they know they’ve won.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 12:37 am

@Let The Past Die wrote:
@DeeBee wrote:
@Man Without A Star wrote:My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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lol my sister said the same thing! My answer was that the FO were so focused on the big picture they didn't notice two little people in the foreground.. lol.. umm that's the best I've got! Wink
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Funny, I thought the same thing.

Here is what it says in Jason Fry's novel.

Finn double-checked that Rose wouldn’t fall off the contraption he’d rigged, tilted the travois, and began to pull it behind him, hurrying across the salt plains toward the distant lines of the trenches. He kept glancing at the towering walkers, fearing that at any moment one of the huge, animal-like heads would tilt their way and open fire. But the walkers simply trudged along without taking any apparent notice of them. After a moment he realized why. They don’t think we matter. Because they know they’ve won.
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Whoooooo cool! Very Happy Thanks for sharing yet again Let The Past Die!
I kind of wonder if this is foreshadowing for what will be Hux's downfall - he overlooks the small things - he did the same thing with Poe at the start of TLJ. We've discussed this some in the Kylo vs Hux first order thread - If it's not in Hux's simulations then he thinks it is irrelevant. Given the resistance is now down to maybe a dozen people and more of a tiny rebellion - if Hux deems them not worth his attention, they are going to be able to defeat him!! Very Happy
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Darth Dementor on Sun 11 Mar 2018, 12:40 am

I like Finn so I'm just glad he didn't die.

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by SkyStar on Fri 16 Mar 2018, 11:35 am

Mode note:

The thread about Finn's sacrifice has been merged into "Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega thread" due to similar topics. 
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Tue 08 May 2018, 10:14 pm

hi all, just thought I'd share this here.. I think the star wars databank has updated the main summary entry for Finn - so it now has a line or two summarising what his main story was in TLJ. Interesting to see how starwars.com sums this up in a just a few sentences, can be informative!
way back machine isn't letting me see archived version for whatever reason.. but I think the last few sentences are new..


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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Starliteprism on Wed 09 May 2018, 2:59 pm

@DeeBee wrote:hi all, just thought I'd share this here.. I think the star wars databank has updated the main summary entry for Finn - so it now has a line or two summarising what his main story was in TLJ. Interesting to see how starwars.com sums this up in a just a few sentences, can be informative!
way back machine isn't letting me see archived version for whatever reason.. but I think the last few sentences are new..


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On the ball, Deebee. FANKS! :-)
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Dar-ren19 on Wed 09 May 2018, 8:44 pm

@DeeBee wrote:
@Man Without A Star wrote:My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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lol my sister said the same thing! My answer was that the FO were so focused on the big picture they didn't notice two little people in the foreground.. lol.. umm that's the best I've got! Wink
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You know, this makes me realize -- what if the FO (and Kylo) did realize that there were these two figures in the foreground and one of them had been moments ago stupidly flying into the bomb -- that Kylo again... AGAIN... let the Traitor go Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

That tells me Kylo didn't notice Finn trudging toward the finish line and the FO never brought it to his (or Hux's) attention. Because I simply can't see Kylo -- if he knew this was fracking FN-2187 -- not blasting him outta the earth/sky.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Thu 10 May 2018, 3:45 am

@Starliteprism wrote:
@DeeBee wrote:hi all, just thought I'd share this here.. I think the star wars databank has updated the main summary entry for Finn - so it now has a line or two summarising what his main story was in TLJ. Interesting to see how starwars.com sums this up in a just a few sentences, can be informative!
way back machine isn't letting me see archived version for whatever reason.. but I think the last few sentences are new..


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On the ball, Deebee. FANKS! :-)
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Your welcome! I'm short on time at the moment or I'd share this, but the addition to the Poe summary is very interesting.. Rey's has a new line too.. gotta run. hope you are all well bye!!!
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Sat 12 May 2018, 2:01 am

@Dar-ren19 wrote:
@DeeBee wrote:
@Man Without A Star wrote:My only concern with the scene is how the hell did he manage to escape with Rose? The camera shows that they are both quite close to the First Order walkers...
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lol my sister said the same thing! My answer was that the FO were so focused on the big picture they didn't notice two little people in the foreground.. lol.. umm that's the best I've got! Wink
@DeeBee

You know, this makes me realize -- what if the FO (and Kylo) did realize that there were these two figures in the foreground and one of them had been moments ago stupidly flying into the bomb -- that Kylo again... AGAIN... let the Traitor go Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

That tells me Kylo didn't notice Finn trudging toward the finish line and the FO never brought it to his (or Hux's) attention. Because I simply can't see Kylo -- if he knew this was fracking FN-2187 -- not blasting him outta the earth/sky.
@Dar-ren19

Interesting idea! From what happened, I'm guessing they didn't recognise him, too far away.. and they just assumed he was a pesky resistance fighter. I think until Luke shows up they are focused on the main goal: getting into the keep.
Maybe they think Finn died on the supremacy.. If Phasma survives she may wish to spread the lie that she killed him. lol.
have you read the expanded novelisation Dar-ren19? I think it has lots of fab Finn content.. I have stumbled on it online in pdf freeeeely available... LOL I paid money for it.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by DeeBee on Thu 17 May 2018, 6:12 pm

Hi all, I give the databank a quick glance every day so I tend to notice if images have been changed. Finn has a new image on his main page..
Thought I'd share the entry as it speaks to Finn's wanting to sacrifice himself.. and JB is looking pretty fierce in the new image

source: https://www.starwars.com/databank/finn

His Gallery has been updated also.. Should I share all the new ones? There is six.. I can if you like. But you can see for yourself following the link below..
I'll just share this one:

A big AWH from me!!!
source: https://www.starwars.com/databank/finn-biography-gallery
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