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Post by tukicarreno on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 2:38 pm

Yes! Awesome. So happy for Adam! And yes, he must be in the UK filming hopefully some scenes with Daisy!
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Post by Birdwoman on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 3:57 pm

Blackkklansman was such a good movie. He and the whole cast did an excellent job!

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Post by tukicarreno on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 5:49 pm

@loversinthestorm wrote:I don’t know them well enough but I was under the impression that he was pro / neutral to reylo and she is completely against. Leaks analysis are just speculation and depends on who is speculating of course, the important is just the information. I personally am expecting for evil kylo marketing (with the Asian marketing being a little more truthful) so we can be surprised as an audience. I would be more nervous if they teased the redemption too much because that would Probably mean they would subvert our expectations (kind of like they joked with Rey skywallker a lot).
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Yes, that makes sense. I am just sad that most likely once again Adam and Daisy will not do any press interviews or promo together as usual. But still hope I a wrong.. Its the last movie, so JJ better go big or go home!
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Post by Saracene on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 7:34 pm

I fully expect people to learn nothing from TLJ, and for the 95% of all articles and speculations to completely ignore the Rey/Kylo dynamic beyond "they will fight in the finale". Because movies are just like video games and have to end with a boss fight.

So basically, Rey and Kylo will have nothing to do with each other for 90% of the film, and their relationship will stay completely static throughout, according to the "experts" who totally predicted TLJ Rolling Eyes
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Post by tukicarreno on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 10:02 pm

@Saracene wrote:

So basically, Rey and Kylo will have nothing to do with each other for 90% of the film, and their relationship will stay completely static throughout, according to the "experts" who totally predicted TLJ Rolling Eyes
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lol! Exactly.
Can you imagine JJ wasting Adam and Daisy's chemistry the whole movie by keeping them apart until the very end? No way! JJ is smart and must know by now what the audience wants soo.... I am hopeful there will be many Reylo moments to be excited about! Will remain positive...
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 11:34 pm

Just about every review of TLJ praised the 'dynamic' relationship between Rey and Kylo, and many claimed their on screen chemistry the best thing in the film.
And let's face it....JJ set it all in motion for Rian to develop. The bridal carry, the sexy unmasking, Max's little speech to Rey about 'belonging'....that was JJ.
I refuse to believe he will not 'finish what he started'.
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Post by AceofWands on Sat 08 Dec 2018, 8:59 am

@kroi wrote:

Actually it could just mean they were deciding which scenes it looked best in, though I am now laughing thinking of him wearing it while shirtless w/ his high waist pants!! lol!

As far as the mask goes, I really don't understand the dismay over it.... JJ started Reylo in TFA w/ Kylo wearing a mask. Him wearing it again doesn't signal no redemption or no romance with Rey. Also the leaker added more about it's look; "It definitely looked like it was broken and put back together with the red stuff. The lines were kinda thin. It kinda reminded me of the look of a porcelain vase that was broken and put back together if that makes sense."

When I first heard of it honestly I was excited, because it sounds like Kintsugi...
"The kintsugi technique suggests many things. We shouldn’t throw away broken objects. When an object breaks, it doesn’t mean that it is no more useful. Its breakages can become valuable. We should try to repair things because sometimes in doing so we obtain more valuable objects. This is the essence of resilience. Each of us should look for a way to cope with traumatic events in a positive way, learn from negative experiences, take the best from them and convince ourselves that exactly these experiences make each person unique, precious."
https://www.lifegate.com/people/lifestyle/kintsugi
"This repair method celebrates each artifact’s unique history by emphasizing its fractures and breaks instead of hiding or disguising them. Kintsugi often makes the repaired piece even more beautiful than the original, revitalizing it with new life."
& "Namely, the practice is related to the Japanese philosophy of wabi-sabi, which calls for seeing beauty in the flawed or imperfect. The repair method was also born from the Japanese feeling of mottainai, which expresses regret when something is wasted, as well as mushin, the acceptance of change."
https://mymodernmet.com/kintsugi-kintsukuroi/
A Christian piece about Kintsugi & Redemption: http://kinstugi.blogspot.com/2015/05/kintsugi-and-power-of-forgiveness-and.html

And:
"There is a Japanese art form called Kintsugi that I think is a beautiful metaphor for this redemptive process. Kintsugi is the process of fixing broken pottery with a lacquer resin sprinkled with powdered gold. The story goes that in the 15th century, the Shogun of Japan sent a damaged Chinese tea bowl to China to be repaired. When it was returned with ugly metal staples, Japanese craftsmen came up with a more aesthetic means of repair. Hence, Kintsugi. Because of the gold linings, the new pottery becomes even more valuable than the old unbroken pottery.

I wonder if the same is true for us. We all experience brokenness, sometimes in very painful ways. But I believe there is also hope for repair, healing, and redemption. If you are a person of faith, perhaps you view God as an integral part of this process. And when the process is complete, the new version of yourself may be even more valuable than the old."
https://www.joshuanhook.com/kintsugi/
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Awesome observation. It ties with the possible symbolism of the mask for sure.
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Post by Riri on Mon 10 Dec 2018, 1:56 pm

We are getting a snowy planet btw. Smile

So there have been various tours happening in Pinewood recently, anyway someone posted this on insta

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Post by californiagirl on Mon 10 Dec 2018, 11:21 pm

A snowy planet, a jungle/forest planet, that grassy planet Poe and Finn were on, a desert planet that is apparently not Jakku-this movie will really go everywhere it seems.
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Post by DeeBee on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 2:47 am

@Riri -great find! thanks for sharing!
@californiagirl - yeah! I'm loving all this!! Who knows, we may see one of these terrains only very briefly..
Anyone got ideas for a set for a snowy planet?
maybe... they are filming a flashback scene about previous events on starkiller.
maybe... we see Rey go to Ilum to find a lightsaber crystal so she can build a double sided saber?! I wish. lol..

Is it just me or is it starting to seem real that IX is starting to be visible on that horizon?!
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Post by LadyGaufrette on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 7:45 am

@DeeBee
maybe... we see Rey go to Ilum to find a lightsaber crystal so she can build a double sided saber?! I wish. lol..
If some theories about Ilum are true, it's going to be difficult for Rey to go there. Laughing

@californiagirl wrote:A snowy planet, a jungle/forest planet, that grassy planet Poe and Finn were on, a desert planet that is apparently not Jakku-this movie will really go everywhere it seems.
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snowy planet -> Starkiller base
forest planet -> Takodana
desert planet -> Jakku

Good news, IX will not be a remake of ROTJ, bad news, it seems it will be a remake of TFA. lol!

More seriously, I think it will principaly be new planets to expand the Galaxy in the movie. But new types of planet will be nice. I'm sorry but Jakku with more rocks I call that Tatooine.
For the known snowy planets, there is one in Solo, Vandor maybe. There is also Hoth. In TCW, there is Orto Plutonia.
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Post by fuhry on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 9:25 am

@LadyGaufrette

I find it hard to believe that they would introduce a third desert planet into the saga. It just seems like a return to Tatooine, where it all began, would be more likely.
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Post by californiagirl on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 10:00 am

@fuhry Fourth desert planet, if we're counting Jedha, which was actually filmed in the same place they shot for this planet in IX. According to MSW, they consider it more of a rocky planet.

They are also apparently back in Black Park. There's lots of photos of sets and scenery here.

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/12/star-wars-episode-ix-rumors-back-in-black-turtles-castles-and-13-dazzling-photos/
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Post by californiagirl on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 11:56 am

The info just keeps rolling in. Mark has done a week of IX shoots and still has most of his parts to film. I for one think he needs to face not only Kylo for obvious reasons, but probably Rey too, since they left on a very bad note as well. I also wouldn't mind more flashbacks to fill in some gaps. Better to show than tell. He is being sent uber-secretive rewrites. Not surprising, as JJ ususally changes stuff as he goes. I'm sure fandom will find way to turn this into a gate too.  Razz

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 12:18 pm

If there is one thing I would like to see it's Luke asking Kylo to forgive him.
Then maybe Kylo can do the same.
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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 12:53 pm

@californiagirl


Thanks for sharing, theres some interesting snippets regarding the super secrecy lengths they're going to this time...

...Nowadays it’s like working for some secret deep state government organization, like being in the CIA. They’re going to send rewrites over to Prague on this dark red paper that gives you a headache to read.”....During filming for The Last Jedi, Hamill noted he was allowed to keep a paper script. Not so for the Episode IX.

“They’re going to fly [the rewrites] over with somebody from the company,” Hamill said. “They’re going to come and give it to me and wait for me to read it before I give it back. So no pressure! You can’t even keep it overnight. But that’s the way it is now.”

Hamill said he spent about a week on Episode IX previously and will return for more shooting amid his Knightfall schedule.
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Post by Darth Dementor on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 1:18 pm

@motherofpearl1 wrote:Just about every review of TLJ praised the 'dynamic' relationship between Rey and Kylo, and many claimed their on screen chemistry the best thing in the film.
And let's face it....JJ set it all in motion for Rian to develop. The bridal carry, the sexy unmasking, Max's little speech to Rey about 'belonging'....that was JJ.
I refuse to believe he will not 'finish what he started'.
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I saw what you did there. Laughing

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Post by PalmettoBlue on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 3:53 pm

Y'all, I'm ridiculous. I've gotten to the point where I don't even want to hear about it if someone says Kylo is embracing evil, that he's just going to continue getting worse.
Did we not watch the same film?
I'm just - tired of that line of thought.
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Post by ZioRen on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 7:37 pm

@PalmettoBlue wrote:Y'all, I'm ridiculous. I've gotten to the point where I don't even want to hear about it if someone says Kylo is embracing evil, that he's just going to continue getting worse.
Did we not watch the same film?
I'm just - tired of that line of thought.
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I just find it hilarious that people seem to have learned nothing after they were 100% wrong about Kylo going into TLJ. At some point, you'd think they'd realize that they aren't seeing the character and his arc the right way.
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Post by DeeBee on Wed 12 Dec 2018, 2:57 am

@californiagirl wrote:@fuhry Fourth desert planet, if we're counting Jedha, which was actually filmed in the same place they shot for this planet in IX. According to MSW, they consider it more of a rocky planet.

They are also apparently back in Black Park. There's lots of photos of sets and scenery here.

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/12/star-wars-episode-ix-rumors-back-in-black-turtles-castles-and-13-dazzling-photos/
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I'd like to see Jedha again. I've just read the comic series 'Ashes of Jedha' (Star wars issues 38-43) which has Leia, Luke and Han visiting Jedha to stop the empire from mining for kyber crystals there in all the rubble.. The comic leaves Jedha in the situation of slowly falling apart, and expected to totally disintegrate. Maybe somehow there is an intervention of some kind after this which stablises Jedha and which hasn't been included in canon yet. I really like the idea of planets being healed and restored - I'd like for this to happen to Jakku too.

@motherofpearl1 wrote:If there is one thing I would like to see it's Luke asking Kylo to forgive him.
Then maybe Kylo can do the same.
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We saw Luke say sorry to Kylo/Ben in The Last Jedi already.. L: I failed you Ben. I’m sorry.
I thought with the way he said this, he was asking for forgiveness, but maybe others see this differently.
Maybe in IX we will have Luke asking Kylo/Ben if he has been forgiven to follow this up....

I noticed Luke said sorry to Leia in TLJ also. I think he needs to say sorry to Rey in IX!


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Post by tukicarreno on Tue 18 Dec 2018, 1:27 pm

Lol. I can't believe it almost January and we haven't had one single pic of Daisy or Adam on set.
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Post by californiagirl on Tue 18 Dec 2018, 4:24 pm

@tukicarreno Probably just emphasizes how super-secret their parts are. It's promising, if anything.
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Post by tukicarreno on Wed 19 Dec 2018, 1:09 pm

@californiagirl wrote:@tukicarreno Probably just emphasizes how super-secret their parts are. It's promising, if anything.
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True! Cannot wait! Who knows? Maybe Adam & Daisy are busy filming my wish of a very romantic kiss scene! I love you Smile
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Post by PalmettoBlue on Wed 19 Dec 2018, 6:06 pm

@tukicarreno We can only hope.
In all seriousness - how seriously are we taking the rumored rebuild of the Legacy saber? The cracked and repaired helmet?
On another note - I'd like of like to see Jedha again, but it was pretty gnarly after that hit from the Death Star. It might make sense to return there if there was anything left of the kyber crystals.
Also - the leak about Hux being captured - are we calling that crack?
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