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Post by ladyMxx on Tue 5 Feb - 15:52

Ok that just screams Reylo. Laughing
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Post by AhsokaTano on Tue 5 Feb - 16:00

Could be ... on some other leak sites people are speculating it could be watto from the prequels or ... a baby ??? If it is the latter that would tie it to prequels in that isn’t there a kidnap plot too ? Am really reaching here I know , but what if it’s a reylo baby/child kidnapped etc - it would explain delightful but controversial and both sides working together and then celebrating ? Sorry I know it sounds like fan fiction . We’ve been deprived of proper leaks for so long that now am running away with crazy ideas . Lol! Very Happy
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Post by ladyMxx on Tue 5 Feb - 16:02

[quote="AhsokaTano"]Could be ... on some other leak sites people are speculating it could be watto from the prequels or ... a baby ??? If it is the latter that would tie it to prequels in that isn’t there a kidnap plot too ? Am really reaching here I know , but what if it’s a reylo baby/child kidnapped etc - it would explain delightful but controversial and both sides working together and then celebrating ? Sorry I know it sounds like fan fiction . We’ve been deprived of proper leaks for so long that now am running away with crazy ideas . Lol! Very Happy[/quote]
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We're all going a bit crazy on reddit. I even started to wonder if the Knights of Ren are the Acolytes of the Beyond and they are using Kylo to get closer to his grandfather and his helmet and Rey's saber.


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Post by ZioRen on Tue 5 Feb - 16:56

I'm real skeptical of MSW after they were wrong about so much from TLJ, honestly. I'm taking their leaks with a ginormous grain of salt unless they're about specific character appearances, because clearly they had a legit source in merch pre-TLJ but that was about it.
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 5 Feb - 17:23

@ZioRen

The Knights of Ren on Ahch-To!!! Rolling Eyes Laughing
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Post by californiagirl on Tue 5 Feb - 17:31

No title from the call. Mostly about other stuff like the shorter Oscars, ESPN, Hulu, younger actor playing Wolverine etc.

They did again note the "phenomenal" success of TLJ, in contrast to the same quarter the following year. Smile
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Post by special_cases on Tue 5 Feb - 18:54

@AhsokaTano wrote:Could be ... on some other leak sites people are speculating it could be watto from the prequels or ... a baby ??? If it is the latter that would tie it to prequels in that isn’t there a kidnap plot too ? Am really reaching here I know , but what if it’s a reylo baby/child kidnapped etc - it would explain delightful but controversial and both sides working together and then celebrating ? Sorry I know it sounds like fan fiction . We’ve been deprived of proper leaks for so long that now am running away with crazy ideas . Lol! Very Happy
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You are not alone, a baby was my first thought. But... I think it's some kind of weapon or something connected to the Force.
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Tue 5 Feb - 22:11

@special_cases wrote:
@AhsokaTano wrote:Could be ... on some other leak sites people are speculating it could be watto from the prequels or ... a baby ??? If it is the latter that would tie it to prequels in that isn’t there a kidnap plot too ? Am really reaching here I know , but what if it’s a reylo baby/child kidnapped etc - it would explain delightful but controversial and both sides working together and then celebrating ? Sorry I know it sounds like fan fiction . We’ve been deprived of proper leaks for so long that now am running away with crazy ideas . Lol! Very Happy
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You are not alone, a baby was my first thought. But... I think it's some kind of weapon or something connected to the Force.
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I agree. It's not outside the realm of possibility I suppose, but IX is supposed to happen only a year after TLJ. (I think JB said something). If it is a Reylo baby, either Rey got pregnant during the force sex when they touched hands, or they got back together pretty quickly after the bad Crait break-up. I want Reylo kids like crazy, but both of those options would have to be executed perfectly for it sell well to the audience.
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Post by ZioRen on Tue 5 Feb - 22:32

A Reylo baby would be so damn jarring, I can't ever picture them doing it. TLJ was pretty Reylo but it wasn't THAT Reylo, good gosh. Kiss before babies, please.

I wonder if it has something to do with time travel? I'm not sure that'd be delightful (unless it allowed certain folks to be brought back to life, so to speak) but it'd certainly be controversial.
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Post by snufkin on Wed 6 Feb - 0:18

If Rey got pregnant from holding hands through the Force, that's like midichlorians and "he had no father." Like why have them eye f**k each other through two movies but then have her get knocked up without at least knocking boots with him?

As for the title, man wouldn't Ways of the Force be the best thing ever?
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Post by Birdwoman on Wed 6 Feb - 1:27

Can you imagine how many heads would explode if the title was: "Ways of the Force" LOL

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Post by loversinthestorm on Wed 6 Feb - 6:29

My first thought when I heard delightful and controversial was also a reylo baby but honestly I understand kylo searching for the baby (if he knew he was the father) but Rey? Has she lost her younger than 1 year child? After everything she went through? That’s more messed up than the fact they could have an baby together!

If it’s a child, it’s a random baby or it’s just a super weapon that both sides want to use (honestly, nothing delightful about that but who knows)

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Post by snufkin on Wed 6 Feb - 18:03

The random weapon could potentially be the scrapped TFA footage with Leia which is likely to get re-purposed (it's going to be so odd seeing Carrie 3 years after her passing & how they work around that w/the story).

@Birdwoman wrote:Can you imagine how many heads would explode if the title was: "Ways of the Force" LOL
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My head would explode from excitement, that's for sure. Though to your point, I can certainly imagine the level of outrage from the fans who are still holding on to "she wants nothing to do with him, she closed the door!!!" for dear life.
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Post by Night Huntress on Thu 7 Feb - 3:08

@snufkin wrote:

My head would explode from excitement, that's for sure. Though to your point, I can certainly imagine the level of outrage from the fans who are still holding on to "she wants nothing to do with him, she closed the door!!!" for dear life.
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I can't believe some people still think that- it's a trope just like the refused first proposal...almost every classical feminine gaze love story has it.
Pride & Prejudice, Jane Eyre, North & South etc. and variations of it are still used in many fantasy and fiction till today because it's just a great way to show character growth. Two people have feelings for each other but need to overcome their ideological differences to make the relationship work. Separation is necessary so both can change and learn from their mistakes.

regarding the reylo baby- I don't think they will go there...the only accepting way would be to show that in an epilogue. Otherwise I agree with @ZioRen it would be very jarring not just because of the "message" (because I personally don't really care about that in fiction) but from a story telling perspective it would be cheap...
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Post by Teo oswald on Thu 7 Feb - 5:42



they say the title will be   
BALANCE OF THE FORCE wrote:

an excellent title if it will be confirmed 100% Smile
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Post by Chris24601 on Thu 7 Feb - 8:26

@Birdwoman wrote:Can you imagine how many heads would explode if the title was: "Ways of the Force" LOL
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It needs to be the title of a Reylo-themed porno if nothing else.

“I can show you the ways of the Force.” (Kylo stand-in waves his hand and Rey stand-in’s clothes fall off).

It practically writes itself.

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Post by tukicarreno on Thu 7 Feb - 9:21

@Teo oswald wrote:

they say the title will be   
BALANCE OF THE FORCE wrote:

an excellent title if it will be confirmed 100% Smile
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But isn't this speculation from Den of Nerds? I think they get the info from Mike Zeroh, so probably not reliable
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Post by Teo oswald on Thu 7 Feb - 17:30

@tukicarreno

thanks Smile
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Post by YeeRees on Thu 7 Feb - 20:07

If Kylo is going back to wearing the mask and Rey is going back to her TFA 3-bun hairstyle it sounds like TFA part 2 instead of post-TLJ and 3rd and final act of the ST. Neutral I know there’s arguments to be made for character regression after what happened with Kylo and Rey at the end of TLJ but it doesn’t help with those who are convinced JJ is hitting the reset button.

I guess if it’s all first act character stuff, along with Big Bad Supreme Leader Kylo and Resistance Rey with her BFF Finn and the rest of the good people gang, that’s sort of what a lot of people are expecting. It’s hard to know at this stage because we only have a few scraps of legit sounding spoilers to work with.
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Post by TracylovesOUAT on Thu 7 Feb - 20:32

@YeeRees I'm hoping it is mainly because they are using a scene(s) between Rey and Leia from TFA...maybe an alternative / outtake to their scene together at the end of TFA...I was hoping for TLJ hair style, or even something different again, for the reasons you brought up. However, even if it is the same as TFA, it doesn't have to be that way throughout and it doesn't have to actually mean anything plot-wise. JJ seemed to really like Rey's TFA hairstyle.

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Post by Lovely_Rose on Thu 7 Feb - 20:33

Yeah, Kylo will wear the mask for the first act but MSW and other sources say he will be without for the 2nd part. For him it's supposed to show his backtracking and then humanized version by the end. For Rey I'm hopeful that MSW says her hair is back in the buns for a practical reason.

I think it makes people nervous because her hair in TLJ signified her coming into womanhood and going back to buns potentially looks like her development with herself (and Kylo) backtracked. I doubt this is the case. Remember JJ has a different style than RJ even though both most likely enjoy Reylo and did/are doing things to make it happen.

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Post by ZioRen on Thu 7 Feb - 20:45

I wonder about the extent of the "regressing". There's a lot to do and not a lot of time. I'll be honest, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they suddenly come out with an announcement that they're splitting IX in half. I hope not, but I wouldn't be shocked.
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