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Post by AhsokaTano on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:29 pm

Ok I will post this in books thread too but thought this would be important here too- so Delilah Dawson has announced another book too:
Delilah S. Dawson announces another SW book on her Instagram
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/alsz15/delilah_s_dawson_announces_another_sw_book_on_her/?st=JRL0CL3E&sh=228f290a



Suddenly the skywalker saga sounds very final ....
It’s interesting though that Luke and Vader are on the cover and no Ben/Kylo or leia .
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Post by Lovely_Rose on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:05 pm

If it comes out in Sept then I doubt the plot contains spoilers or insight into Kylo. Looks like it might concern young Luke and his story with Vader.

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Post by Teo oswald on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:27 pm

@AhsokaTano wrote:Ok I will post this in books thread too but thought this would be important here too- so Delilah Dawson has announced another book too:
Delilah S. Dawson announces another SW book on her Instagram
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/alsz15/delilah_s_dawson_announces_another_sw_book_on_her/?st=JRL0CL3E&sh=228f290a



Suddenly the skywalker saga sounds very final ....
It’s interesting though that Luke and Vader are on the cover and no Ben/Kylo or leia .
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wow what a good news, another piece to add to the collection. everything that talks about the skywalkers is welcome in my house and in my library Smile
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Post by YeeRees on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:05 pm

@tukicarreno wrote:
@justyou wrote:So if filming really runs that late, I wonder when Adam is headed back to NYC for his play?  
@justyou

He probably will fly in and out. That's what he usually does.
This past weekend he flew to Sundance directly from London on Saturday, then on Sunday he flew to LA for the SAG awards then he flew back to London on Monday.

I assume he is  going  back to LA this  weekend again for the Oscars luncheon and then if he still hasn't wrapped his scenes yet he will probably do one or two more weeks of IX filming before staying permanently in New York for rehearsals in mid Feb.
I heard previews start Mid March and premieres on April 16th... Apparently is only a short limited run until  May or June.  

That's all I know.. Smile lol
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Burn This doesn’t close until July. Play rehearsals usually start around 6 weeks before they do it in front of an audience so I would expect Adam to be in NY after the Oscars lunch. He will presumably fly back to London for the BAFTAs the following weekend though so he might not have wrapped on IX yet.
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Post by Starliteprism on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:08 pm

@Lovely_Rose wrote:If it comes out in Sept then I doubt the plot contains spoilers or insight into Kylo. Looks like it might concern young Luke and his story with Vader.
@Lovely_Rose

@AhsokaTano wrote:Ok I will post this in books thread too but thought this would be important here too- so Delilah Dawson has announced another book too:
Delilah S. Dawson announces another SW book on her Instagram
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/alsz15/delilah_s_dawson_announces_another_sw_book_on_her/?st=JRL0CL3E&sh=228f290a



Suddenly the skywalker saga sounds very final ....
It’s interesting though that Luke and Vader are on the cover and no Ben/Kylo or leia .
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Think on Tumblr, it mentions it goes all the way to VIII, perspective of the Skywalkers.

*looks on Tumblr, but sourced from Twitter*

“THE SKYWALKER SAGA is going to be the most exquisitely bound Star Wars storybook you can imagine, with gorgeous art by Brian Rood and words by me, retelling Episodes I through VIII through the eyes of the Skywalkers themselves. We’re talking SPACE FAIRYTALE style.”
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Post by Mila Lazarus on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:55 pm

@Teo oswald wrote:@Mila Lazarus

people want us to believe this, you have to think outside the box Smile
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That's what I tell myself too! I just don't know how I'll survive these 11 next months Laughing
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Post by Man Without A Star on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 4:50 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/amhtaa/ice_tunnels_in_ix_and_possible_military_emphasis/?utm_term=31419006895&utm_medium=comment_embed&utm_source=embed&utm_name=null&utm_content=footer

Some EP 9 info from the MSW podcast.

Episode IX

- The four-minute trailer was shown to the crew, it had incomplete VFX. It was cut down to a two-minute-ish trailer.
- Jason doesn't know when the trailer will drop.
- According to Jason, it sounds like they could promote IX more like how they promoted Rogue One - more emphasis on military.
- There's some ice cave on the set.
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Post by rawpowah on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 7:50 am

Yeah makes sense (re:military). The Resistance vs First Order plot is the easiest and most expected way to promote the movie. We all know who is going to win and there's the added bonus of pew-pew to entertain the crowd and get them hyped.

As usual, we'll probably have to rely on the promotion in Japan to get some Reylo tidbits.
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Post by PalmettoBlue on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 7:53 am

@Man Without A Star Thanks for the heads up. I'll give the MSW podcast a listen - and filter it through the cast's biases. LOL.
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Post by ladyMxx on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 12:23 pm

I won't read too much into it, but I wonder if part of the reason they are focusing on the military aspect, besides John saying it's a war to end all wars, is because the Force scenes are too spoilery for a teaser?
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Post by Kessel on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 5:07 pm

@rawpowah wrote:Yeah makes sense (re:military). The Resistance vs First Order plot is the easiest and most expected way to promote the movie. We all know who is going to win and there's the added bonus of pew-pew to entertain the crowd and get them hyped.

As usual, we'll probably have to rely on the promotion in Japan to get some Reylo tidbits.
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I agree. Even though I personally find it rather  Sleep , I always thought a lot  of the marketing outside Asia would focus heavily on the Resistance vs. the First Order as it’s the safest and least spoiler-ish way to hype the movie.

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Post by Lovely_Rose on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 6:22 pm

The military aspect is OK, but I feel like they should also be heavily promoting the major themes of this trilogy with the final film, which is the balance in the force and Reylo. Even if it's spoilery, they need to be a bit more revealing with the audience this time around. I was also secretly hoping that Rey and Kylo would get the Anidala promo treatment, with magazine covers and photoshoots and such. It would be disappointing to not see that.

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Post by tukicarreno on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 9:52 pm

@Lovely_Rose wrote:The military aspect is OK, but I feel like they should also be heavily promoting the major themes of this trilogy with the final film, which is the balance in the force and Reylo. Even if it's spoilery, they need to be a bit more revealing with the audience this time around. I was also secretly hoping that Rey and Kylo would get the Anidala promo treatment, with magazine covers and photoshoots and such. It would be disappointing to not see that.
@Lovely_Rose

I am hoping that we get one Adam/Daisy photoshoot at some point. It's the last chance to do it! Also praying we get some joint interviews for once.
If the promo for this movie is going to be the good guys vs the bad guys all over again like TFA I am going to be disappointed. Neutral


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Post by Saracene on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 10:09 pm

@Kessel wrote:I agree. Even though I personally find it rather  Sleep , I always thought a lot  of the marketing outside Asia would focus heavily on the Resistance vs. the First Order as it’s the safest and least spoiler-ish way to hype the movie.
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I can't say I've ever seen anyone go, "wow I can't wait for the Resistance to take on the First Order, I'm so hyped".
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Post by ZioRen on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 10:13 pm

I've thought since pre-TLJ that Disney is obsessed with hiding the good stuff/spoilers to the point of detrimental to the ST's marketing. At some point you have to throw people a bone. It's just not that important to hide every single tiny morsel of the plot that's your biggest draw. It's just a movie, folks, one that you're supposed to be trying to SELL Laughing
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Post by californiagirl on Sun 03 Feb 2019, 11:43 pm

@ZioRen It really does stand in contrast to the way most other films are marketed. It's good not to show all the best parts in the trailer, as so many do, but it also allows people to create their own unrealistic (even delusional at times) expectations, then be unreasonably mad when they don't happen.

The ST is so far down the pipeline, and SW fandom was so hypersensitive even before that, revealing anything could create an avalanche of ill will. But also not giving people something to grab a handle on will also create discontent. I swear there's no winning. I don't envy LF and Disney's marketing and PR.
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Post by Night Huntress on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 1:37 am

@ZioRen wrote:I've thought since pre-TLJ that Disney is obsessed with hiding the good stuff/spoilers to the point of detrimental to the ST's marketing. At some point you have to throw people a bone. It's just not that important to hide every single tiny morsel of the plot that's your biggest draw. It's just a movie, folks, one that you're supposed to be trying to SELL Laughing
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although- I had to admit I really loved the first official trailer for TLJ...it can still give me goosebumps when I watch it even over a year after the movie is out. I think that was very well put together...teasing without revealing too much. I was so funny how everyone speculated it was ALL misdirection, when imo it was honest about the main themes of the story.

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Post by ZioRen on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 1:40 am

@californiagirl wrote:@ZioRen It really does stand in contrast to the way most other films are marketed. It's good not to show all the best parts in the trailer, as so many do, but it also allows people to create their own unrealistic (even delusional at times) expectations, then be unreasonably mad when they don't happen.

The ST is so far down the pipeline, and SW fandom was so hypersensitive even before that, revealing anything could create an avalanche of ill will. But also not giving people something to grab a handle on will also create discontent. I swear there's no winning. I don't envy LF and Disney's marketing and PR.
@californiagirl

Yeah it's a tough balancing act, but I feel like there's fault in tailoring marketing to superfans, so to speak. As in getting caught up in the hype and eagle eyes, and the tendency to complain, of superfans and thus hiding "spoilers" to huge levels and keeping quiet as long as possible. But most of the ST's audience will never be looking that hard into every single potential spoiler and detail. It seems like TPTB are shrouding and downplaying in their marketing tactics too much just to pull the veil over the eyes of a relatively tiny percentage of the people who will watch the films.

And it feels like they've lost some potential hype in the process. I remember that most people I knew didn't even realize TLJ was coming out until really, really close to its actual release date. It almost caught them by surprise, like it suddenly blinked into existence for them less than a month before the movie's release. With how big a cultural phenomenon and household name Star Wars is, that really shouldn't be the case. It especially shouldn't be the case for the big trilogy closer!
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Post by MaddieDove on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 7:09 am

They definitely lost the hype for Solo. The marketing was non-existent, at least in my part of the world. The movie was so quietly put in cinemas, that the theater was only 5% full when I went with my family on a Thursday night premiere. It never happened with a SW movie before, ever, and I have been watching SW in cinemas since the early 1980s. They screwed that one big time. It should have been released in fall 2018, not in spring.
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Post by tukicarreno on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 7:56 am

I am also very surprised there is not even a title yet! I thought that at the very least they would reveal a title during the Super Bowl but nothing... Sigh... Neutral
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Post by Mila Lazarus on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 8:51 am

Has it been posted? https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/amoeka/adam_was_the_only_one_of_the_main_cast_o

"Adam was the only one of the main cast of BlacKkKlansman that was not present yesterday in the DGA". It may mean he's still filming...
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Post by AhsokaTano on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 8:59 am

@Mila Lazarus
Interesting..am hoping at the end it will be Adam and daisy and John - the trio of this trilogy( although Kyla is antagonist too).
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Post by tukicarreno on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 11:54 am

@AhsokaTano wrote:@Mila Lazarus
Interesting..am hoping at the end it will be Adam and daisy and John - the trio of this trilogy( although Kyla is antagonist too).
@AhsokaTano

Hmmm. Interesting indeed. He is probably filming this week along with Daisy and seems John too. So maybe he will not attend the Oscar luncheon today? I think it makes sense because he probably wants to end filming this week, attend the BAFTA's awards on Sunday Feb 10th and then go back to NY for his play rehearsals...
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 8:47 pm

Interesting new rumor from Making Star Wars:

https://makingstarwars.net/2019/02/rumors-speculation-star-wars-episode-ix-and-the-threat-of-the-knights-of-ren/?fbclid=IwAR3BrEdE1QKnqU9Pp7ZnAgHpRZeZQrbMPzPEIkFqflEsB5vxzeCHd0Eal3g

Makng Star Wars wrote:Sometime ago, I spoke to a source about Star Wars: Episode IX who told me that things would get interesting for Kylo Ren when a threat from The Beyond reveals itself, making Kylo Ren vulnerable. This threat would serve as a motivating factor for Kylo and Rey’s interactions as the story progressed but the source wasn’t sure which act it happened in or how it unfolded. It should be noted that a lot of what that source told me, in terms of accuracy, has come to fruition since that conversation. However, with just that info in hand, the understandable but knee jerk assumptions from fans would likely have gone right to the Expanded Universe and The Yuuzhan Vong. Now, I think I may have got the information that relieves that ambiguity a bit more.

Very recently, another source with a great track record said it was really important that The Knights of Ren have returned from The Beyond. The pregnant pause after that bit of information has led me to believe there’s a lot to that. The fact that there is some plot significance to the Knights of Ren in the film is something else most sources have also echoed.

Another rumor I have heard a few times pertains to those red troopers I wrote about sometime ago. I have heard that the red troopers are called “Sith Stormtroopers.” Now, are they called that behind the scenes because Kylo is actually a Sith Lord now or do we have a game of synonyms at play where “evil” is the same as “Sith”? Anyways, the pertinent info here is that these red troopers answer only to Kylo Ren and The Knights of Ren exclusively. Maybe they’re just the Knights of Ren’s infantry?

It also seems that in Episode IX Kylo has accumulated private armies and militias under The First Order banner to strengthen any opposition to his rule. Worlds that have their own defense forces are also aligned with The First Order. So it sounds like the scope of the battles in the film could be pretty large and not just have the rebellion fighting against white Stormtroopers.

Do these rumors connect? Let us speculate that they do as they really might connect like this. It would seem Kylo Ren is putting together a large force to dominate the galaxy. But the first rumor says that a threat from The Beyond eventually reunites Kylo Ren with Rey (who seems to pretty much have the same hair as last time, by the way). Maybe the Knights of Ren are like The Sith. Perhaps the #2 person of power in the knight’s order knows that they have to kill Kylo to become The Supreme Leader and things get out of control for Kylo as the Knights of Ren, now generals of The First Order, try and usurp The Supreme Leader just like Kylo Ren did in The Last Jedi? This is pure speculation on my part, but if these rumors are all accurate, that could potentially be how these things connect together.

Remember, these are real rumors that have come with information that has been validated in various aspects of Star Wars on screen. So the rumors by themselves have validity. The connective tissue between them was speculation about how they connect, assuming all the building blocks to that narrative have been interpreted correctly.
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Post by ladyMxx on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 10:07 pm

If this threat creates a team-up again, then many of us called it sometime ago I think. This sounds extremely plausible, and actually makes more sense than any other rumor I've heard. This also sounds a bit too much like Palpatine's story about a darkness he sensed.

Edit: Ok it is Palaptine's story it seems. I knew it sounded familiar!

Someone on reddit posted this from Aftermath:

“No Sith remain,” Tashu says. “And the lone Jedi that exists—the son of Anakin Skywalker —possesses an untouchable soul. At least for now. We must instead move toward the dark side. Palpatine felt that the universe beyond the edges of our maps was where his power came from. Over the many years he, with our aid, sent men and women beyond known space. They built labs and communication stations on distant moons, asteroids, out there in the wilds. We must follow them. Retreat from the galaxy. Go out beyond the veil of stars. We must seek the source of the dark side like a man looking for a wellspring of water.”

Not sure if it connects. It could also be referring to the Acolytes of the Beyond as another reddit user pointed out.

Much speculation to be had for sure now!


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