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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 20 Apr 2019, 5:56 am

The reason I am making this separate thread for ST & Tarot is because simply Tarot/astrology covers so much of what is being discussed in so many different threads that if I went to each thread  and commented about tarot and the ST, whether its , spoilers rumors, TROS predictions, reverse Anidala, it would frankly be annoying and disconnected from a holistic explanation. I have already made a very detailed video on Tarot and Star Wars and it covers what is the underlying myth of the saga and how Rey & Kylo are the avatars of the new age, the Age of Aquarius. Rey & Kylo portion begins at 23:00   Reylo's destinies are intertwined, but they are more than potential's they are the guardians of the galaxy, the fixed stars heralding a new age and change of consciousness. The Sun Child ( Ben ) and The Water Child  ( Rey ) both are adept with living force but together create the cosmic force. As with Anakin and Obi Wan. For shorthand purposes and because we have new information and images and we will be getting even more between now and December, which require new analysis and classification So, I will put this here, The Wheel of Fortune Card, this is the Card that RULES THEM ALL, and is the real heart of what George Lucas used to build his Saga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsd_Wk_5EhM&t=2879s

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The wheel is an apt symbol for the forces of Destiny and Fate because it shows how everything is connected in a cycle; some might call it the circle of life
. Everything happens in cycles; we rise and fall just as a spot on the perimeter of a wheel travels from the highest point, through all the possible points on the wheel, and then back to the apex. However changes will affect you depends on where you are on the wheel. If you are at the top then any change could throw you off, but if you are the bottom then a change could start you back up to the top. And for one person to rise another must fall - everyone is connected.    ATA tarot definitions.



The Wheel of Fortune card has many moving parts and symbols that all have meaning to Rey & Kylo but also to Obi Wan & Anakin. The Cherubim are the Man, The Eagle, The Bull & The Lion, each of our heroes is represented by two of these creatures. This is the tetramorph,  Revelation 4:7. Ezekiel 1:10. These creatures are representative of a star constellation, Aquarius, Scorpios, Taurus, & Leo in each of these constellations is a Royal Star, called the 4 Royal Persian Stars. Each one has a fixed element making them the most powerful, Fixed Air ( Aquarius) Fixed Earth ( Taurus)  Fixed Water ( Scorpio) Fixed Fire ( Leo).
Together they are the fifth element ( ether) (love)

Each one of the Royal Stars has an aspect

Kylo - Antares is in Scorpio - Heart of the Scorpion, The backbiter/betrayer, death as the Eagle/Phoenix, resurrection - Judgement - Archangel Michael-West
Kylo - Aldebaran is in Taurus - Red Eye of the Bull, The Follower, The Seer ( secret knowledge,) - Archangel Uriel -East
Rey- Regulus is in Leo - Little King/Heart of the Lion/Kingly star - Emotions - Archangel Raphael  - North
Rey - Fomalhaut is in Pisces Austrinus -  loneliest star in the sky - The Mind - Archangel Gabriel - South

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The creatures in the center are just as important and the colors of the titles of the ST follow the operating order, yellow ( involution serpent energy), red ( rising hermanubis) and blue  Sphinx  ( ether) . Wherever there is Kenobi, Skywalker is not far behind.....

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Serpent = Skywalkers ( solar energy )
Hermanubis = Kenobi ( consciousness rising) that is why they always have the higher ground

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The Hebrew Letter on the bottom of the Wheel of Fortune card is Kaph, grasp hand

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 20 Apr 2019, 6:23 am

Kylo Ben, Antares Scorpio

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Alpha (α) Scorpius, Antares, is a red binary star, fiery red and emerald green, near the center of the constellation Scorpius and was sometimes called "the Heart of the Scorpion". " You have your father's heart in you"

Antares, the well-nigh universal title for this splendid star, is transcribed from the second-century Greek astronomer Ptolemy's (Greek) Antares in the Syntaxis, and generally thought to be from {p.365} anti Ares, "similar to," or the "rival of," Mars, in reference to its color, — the Latin Tetrabiblos had Marti comparatur; or, in the Homeric signification of the words, the "equivalent of Mars

Mars in Tarot is represented by the Emperor Card

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The Emperor sits on a ram-adorned throne, a symbol of Mars. He holds an ankh scepter in his right hand, and a globe, symbol of domination, in his left. The Emperor sits atop a stark, barren mountain, a sign of "sterility of regulation, and unyielding power".

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So it is Kylo that will defeat the Emperor....
The star jabbah is in the constellation..interesting

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Post by LadyGaufrette on Sat 20 Apr 2019, 9:08 pm

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I'm glad you finally published your tarot meta, but it's too late for me to read completly what you have written. I'll do it another day when my mind is clearer. Smile
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 4:30 am

@LadyGaufrette wrote:@spacebaby45678
I'm glad you finally published your tarot meta, but it's too late for me to read completly what you have written. I'll do it another day when my mind is clearer. Smile
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Thanks, but the original post on this thread is not a "meta" , I did a video meta on the Journey of Star Wars through Tarot & Astrology, it is much more complete and comprehensive. The first post is just a short statement on The Wheel of Fortune Card, there are many more Tarot correspondences in the Saga, however it seams the ST is wrapping up on this card and LF is pretty blatant about it.

I am just using this thread as a way of marking new discoveries and associations that I or anyone else makes for ST & TROS as we get more spoilers, trailers and photos.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 7:48 am

Happy Easter everyone! This is Resurrection Sunday sunny  sunny  And we know the real reason we are all here!   Kylo Ben Organa Skywalker Solo... king  king  Redemption Bendemtion cheers  I prefer Sacrifice & Resurrection....  Sad Get your tissues ready ladies for TROS... AD is going to kill it. Sad  Sad

"let the past die kill it if you have to that's the only way to become what you were meant to be"
                                                                                         From the wise sayings of Kylo Ren
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Well, The Wheel of Fortune Card is here to deliver the GOOD NEWS!  cheers Rey & Kylo each representing two of the Angelic Cherubim (tetramorph) which are symbols for the Four Royal stars. I have not focused much of my attention on Kylo/Ben so today Easter Sunday/Resurrection Sunday  is the right day to give give Ben Solo his due, or predict his future based on his two Stars, Antares & Aldebaran, but mostly Antares which is the star in the heart of the Scorpion. Believe it or not, Star Wars is a modern day telling of the Gospel in the stars. Not exactly like the Bible but it is close enough and the Skywalkers are without a doubt a representation of Jesus the Christ and at times the anti-christ but that is another story for another day. I mean who would have thunk, that GL would actually use "stars" to tell a story about Star Wars  Laughing  EP9,  The Rise of Skywalker, what does it mean??? affraid Rey is a Skywalker..  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes #reykenobi... Razz How Scorpio tells the story of Kylo's transformation back to Ben Solo...

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Scorpio is associated with three different animals: the scorpion, the snake, and the eagle (or phoenix). The snake and eagle are related to the nearby constellations of Ophiuchus and Aquila  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_(astrology)

The Tarot Card that corresponds or is associated with the Eagle/Phoenix/Scorpion on the Wheel of Fortune Card is the Death Card 13
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Upright card (keywords): Endings,  Profound change, Letting go of attachments, Failure, Mortality The exact themes of TLJ...  Surprised

Almost all versions of the Death card show a symbol of resurrection or re-birth. This could be the rising sun, an egg, or a sapling sprouting from the body of a dead man. All these symbols show that to progress in life, our old form must die, just as a snake sheds its old skin to reveal a shiny new one. This is the message of the card: Death must be conquered by the regeneration of the soul, and he who knows this shall live forever.

Kylo's original Topps Card was 67.... 6 +7 =13, which gave me that original clue that Star Wars characters matched and had attributes from Tarot.

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However,  before we get to, Aquila/Phoenix/ let's go back to Ophiuchus, the constellation that has his foot on the heart of the Scorpion, this is Kylo/Ben being his best self...

Ophiuchus The Serpent Holder (pronounced off-ee-YOO-cuss) represents a man with a snake coiled around his waist. He holds the head of the snake in his left hand and its tail in his right hand. The snake is represented by a separate constellation, Serpens. The Greek spelling of the name was Ὀφιοῦχος (Ophiouchos).Ophiuchus holds a huge snake (SNOKE) , Serpens, in both hands as shown in the Atlas Coelestis of John Flamsteed (1729). Serpens is unique in being divided into two halves. Serpens Caput  Very Happy

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As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man [Aquarius], and the face of a lion [Leo], on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox/bull [Taurus] on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle/phoenix [Scorpio]. (Ezekiel 1 verse 10).

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Saint John’s book of the Apocalypse (Revelation 4, v7) also alludes to the vision, of which Fred Gettings, in The Secret Zodiac, writes:

The eagle of St John is the eagle of Scorpio, which sign (alone of all the twelve) has two images, the eagle the symbol of the redeemed and spiritualized Scorpionic nature, the scorpion its fallen, unredeemed and earth-bound nature.

The Eagles Talon's leaves a scar as a sign of resurrection.. there are other heroes and anti-heroes who die and rise... Of course there is Grandpa Anakin
The story of his scar has not been told, just he seems to get one in between AOTC & ROTS... but this scar pre-sages or is symbol of his future resurrection at the end of ROTJ

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Jon Snow from GOT is another great example, an eagle attacks him and leaves a scar, he dies and resurrects.

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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is another great example and shares many motifs with Kylo. Harry's scar left by Voldemort is a clue to his "death" and "Resurrection", both Harry & Kylo are Ophiuchus The Serpent Holder as their main adversaries are Snoke & Voldemort i.e. Serpens.. Harry meets Dumbledore at King's cross station... this is an allusion to the Crucifixion, and of course Dumbledore founded the Order of the Phoenix/Eagle to defeat Voldemort.


The Phoenix is the transformational symbol of Scorpio. Like the Eagle, in ancient times the Phoenix was a symbol of the Sun that was said to live for 500 years. At the end of its life it built a funeral pyre and burned in the flames, only to regenerate its progeny from those very flames.


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Kylo, will transcendence from the crawling scorpion to the soaring eagle, still predatory, still conveying the essence of patience and penetration, but capable of flight and height, brings together the theme of destruction and renewal as a story of evolution.

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1 Corinthians 15:55-57 King James Version (KJV)
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

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Spacebaby out... I am off to Sunrise service...

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Post by AhsokaTano on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 8:25 am

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That’s amazing analysis! Wow! Happy Easter ! Smile
Redemption, sacrifice & resurrection will be Ben’s hero’s journey - Its written in the stars and was always on the cards - literally . And it’s going to be beautiful but emotional Sad
I kind of predict Ben now taking the falcon and doing the Holdo maneuvre and it being really emotional but that he’ll have this ( as well as his force bond with Rey ) below to light his way home and eventually find his way back to Rey . “I’ll come back for you sweetheart “ rippling like an echo through time and space because he will find his way back and home to Rey . I believe that . I will be bringing a man size box of Kleenex tissues when I see the The Rise Of Skywalker.


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Post by orangedelamer on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 10:14 am

This is fascinating! I've been studying the Tarot and Jung's Mysterium Coniunctionis recently and I really want to understand how it applies to Star Wars.


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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 11:51 am

@orangedelamer wrote:This is fascinating! I've been studying the Tarot and Jung's Mysterium Coniunctionis recently and I really want to understood how it applies to Star Wars.
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Yes, Jung was very much into Tarot and some of his essential philosophies he proposed in his seminal work AION, is related to concepts found in Tarot and Astrology...

One of the Sacred Jedi Texts is named AIONOMICA  BIG CLUE turn left...https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sacred_Jedi_texts

Jung is essential in understanding Tarot, GFFA & GL. Jung was also a great influence on Joseph Campbell.  George took the ideas of the twin heroes and built the saga on that concept.


All aspects of the Fool's Journey ( The Kessel Run "Kesel" in Hebrew means Fool) and attributes of the twin heroes can be found in Tarot.

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My Video-Meta on Tarot & Star Wars is excellent if I don't say so myself... So many questions are answered, it all makes sense and it is the KEY to answering WHAT is the greater meaning of the ST & the Saga, Who is Rey, & What is the fate of Ben.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsd_Wk_5EhM


Full text of AION by Jung

https://archive.org/stream/collectedworksof92cgju/collectedworksof92cgju_djvu.txt
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Post by AhsokaTano on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 4:37 pm

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Ok the Isaiah references I was talking about in my post in spoilers are below but not just Isaiah but other biblical references too - how the messiah chosen one won’t be recognised( his form will be marred ?) but will see his descendants -however his soul will be a guilt offering . It just made me think he might be in a different form. I hope not . I want to see Adam Driver and as a human Smile - am hoping like you said his transfiguration is personal rather than evolutionary.
I too also hope like you said that George Lucas is going for a sprinkle of this and that and not literally going for a straight retelling of the gospels so that all his audiences whatever faith, beliefs , culture or interests they have ,can identify with it . I see patterns from the gospels but doesn’t necessarily mean that’s all there is in there because it’s interesting that you have a character named Jannah too in Rise of Skywalker . Jannah means paradise in Arabic and in Islam there is a Hadith that says paradise is at the foot of the mother . So that’s interesting too.
Anyway going back to your reply - yes the age of Aquarius tackling the union of opposites - reylo- wow ! Wonderful ! This is positively good news .And I like what you say that they both the Christ / chosen ones therefore if there is a sacrifice the other can help bring them the other one back . Great stuff!
I found the part where you talked about temperance being after death and not before really interesting and those American Gods snippets . The fact it won’t just be on the earthly plane where rebuilding etc will take place but Also takes place for the deceased until resurrection ( almost like a type of purgatory /chaos ?.)I looked at the Ahsoka and tarot article too that possibility of concept of life after death could be redefined in Star Wars and maybe there will be a reversal of death itself . Wow ! That would be amazing to see . Below are the biblical references and also my favourite part of the Ahsoka and tarot article you posted in the spoilers thread that I think may be especially relevant to kylo and Rey in Rise of Skywalker if they go through death:

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Post by Starliteprism on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 5:09 pm

@spacebaby45678 wrote:
@orangedelamer wrote:This is fascinating! I've been studying the Tarot and Jung's Mysterium Coniunctionis recently and I really want to understood how it applies to Star Wars.
@orangedelamer

Yes, Jung was very much into Tarot and some of his essential philosophies he proposed in his seminal work AION, is related to concepts found in Tarot and Astrology...

One of the Sacred Jedi Texts is named AIONOMICA  BIG CLUE turn left...https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sacred_Jedi_texts

Jung is essential in understanding Tarot, GFFA & GL. Jung was also a great influence on Joseph Campbell.  George took the ideas of the twin heroes and built the saga on that concept.


All aspects of the Fool's Journey ( The Kessel Run "Kesel" in Hebrew means Fool) and attributes of the twin heroes can be found in Tarot.

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My Video-Meta on Tarot & Star Wars is excellent if I don't say so myself... So many questions are answered, it all makes sense and it is the KEY to answering WHAT is the greater meaning of the ST & the Saga, Who is Rey, & What is the fate of Ben.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsd_Wk_5EhM


Full text of AION by Jung

https://archive.org/stream/collectedworksof92cgju/collectedworksof92cgju_djvu.txt
@spacebaby45678

Interesting how you mention sun and water...apparently new pins from loungefly and note the kylo ren and rey one.

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 5:32 pm

messiah chosen one won’t be recognised( his form will be marred ?)

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I think you are asking if Kylo will suffer the same fate as Anakin? Marred & burnt beyond recognition? Please confirm.

Maybe, burned but reborn and physically restored? as Ben will be completing the 3rd arc of the Skywalkers. Which is the full resurrection of the Phoenix, the Bennu Bird.

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The Bennu phoenix is an animal of great sacred importance to the ancient Egyptians. It resembled two of the most common types occupying the Egyptian side of the Red Sea – the gray heron and the larger goliath heron. It is often seen wearing the Atef crown of Osiris (the white crown with two ostrich feather plumes on each side) or the sun disk on crest of its head. Its name is derived from the word weben that translates into “to rise” or “to shine”.

The Bennu phoenix is considered a sacred bird especially in Heliopolis. People believed that it was the Ba of the sun god, Ra. In fact, the hieroglyph of the deity was that of the bennu bird in the Late Period. Its connection with Ra extended to the rising and setting of the sun where it was considered as the lord of the royal jubilee (a form of resurrection and rebirth like the sun). Another story says that the phoenix brought its the burnt old body to Heliopolis for final burning after the bird rose again.

The Bennu phoenix was also linked with the inundation of the Nile and the creation of all
. As an aspect of Atum, it is believed that the bennu had sacred pillars known as ben-ben stone where these blessed bird has rested upon when the primeval waters of chaos (Nun) receded at the beginning of time. The same primeval mound where all creation began was the birthplace of the bennu phoenix. This bird’s cry marked the beginning of creation and of time making it the god of time where hours, days, nights, months and years were derived. It is also believed that creation started in the city of the Sun (Heliopolis).

Scholars also believe that the bennu was a form of the resurrected Osiris – a manifestation of the god. It is often seen perched in top of the sacred willow tree associated with the god. Many also believe that the bird is connected with the planet Venus that is named star of the ship of Bennu-Asar. (Asar is the Egyptian Name of Osiris)

The bennu phoenix is also a legendary sacred bird of the Greeks. Herodotus believed it came to Arabia every 500 years carrying the body of its father in egg myrrh. Before its death, it will create a nest made out of incense twigs where it will eventually lie down and die. From its minute frame, a worm would emerged that will become another phoenix by the power of the heat of the sun. However, this version of the bennu resembled that of an eagle with a plumage made of red and gold colors"



No what is interesting is that the Bennu bird/Phoenix/Eagle is associated with the rising of the Nile, the card the directly corresponds to that is the Star Card 17, Aquarius.

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In the skies above we see seven large, eight-sided, white stars and a giant yellow star at the centre also with eight rays. The large star at the centre could be Sirius, the brightest star in our sky and considered sacred in ancient Egypt. The return of Sirius to the pre-dawn skies (the heliacal rising) was a herald of the annual flooding of the Nile and the ‘dog days of summer’. Sirius’s reappearance marked the beginning of the new year in the Egyptian calendar and symbolised the rise of Isis from her time in the underworld with Osiris.

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Hapi, the god of the Nile inundation appears as Aquarius the constellation from which the arrival of the annual flood in ancient Egypt was predicted.

Hapi was shown as a prosperous, fertile, blue-colored, chubby man with pendulous breasts, a Pharaoh’s fake beard and a belly hanging over his girdle.   His wife, Wadjet gave birth to the first papyrus plants in the Delta so presumably Hapi was the father of papyrus. He also wears a striking crown that looks like a large clump of papyrus growing from his head. Appropriate because the major papyrus swamps came to be synonymous with Lower Egypt, the Delta, and his wife, Wadjet’s name is written using the heraldic plant of Lower Egypt, the hieroglyph of a papyrus plant.

Amazingly, Hapi’s hairy crown and strange anatomy is transformed into a straw blonde woman or hermaphrodite, who appears on the 17th Tarot card as “The Star,” but he/she is still wielding two water jugs.

So when you look up and see Aquarius in the night sky you are looking at papyrus writ large, papyrus among the stars.



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Post by AhsokaTano on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 5:45 pm

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Yeah I meant marred as in disfigured in some way either like Anakin or becoming something completely
Different ie being reborn as a different life form ( non human ) but as you say if he’s associated with the Phoenix then presumably that means eventual full resurrection similar to what he is now in bodily form as the Phoenix rises the same each time . Smile
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 5:47 pm

@AhsokaTano wrote:@spacebaby45678
Yeah I meant marred as in disfigured in some way either like Anakin or becoming something completely
Different ie being reborn as a different life form ( non human ) but as you say if he’s associated with the Phoenix then presumably that means eventual full resurrection similar to what he is now in bodily form as the Phoenix rises the same each time . Smile
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The new pin, water & sun, the twin heroes. cheers
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 5:52 pm

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Rey's card, 17th Star Card is the living waters of everlasting life. So through Rey/Isis/Aquarius Ben is reborn. She is all that he needs.
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Post by AhsokaTano on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 6:05 pm

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Wonderful- Rey as the living waters of life! Ben will be ok and reborn ! cheers
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 11 May 2019, 6:18 am

Very, very good video on Ben Solo the Rising Phoenix... which of course corresponds to the Eagle/Phoenix on the Wheel of Fortune Card but, only going by what the cards say I can heartily disagree with it's conclusion that it is Ben that is the King and or any associations with Ben as King, yes as a redemptive Christ figure but No to the Kingly attributes of Christ. The 4 cherubim are all aspects of Christ but they don't trade roles they all have distinct aspects of the Christ myth to fulfill. Or their roles and actions are in a fixed range.





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Post by AhsokaTano on Sat 11 May 2019, 3:24 pm

Loved the video Smile . To be honest I really hope it ends like this and gotta say the artwork and imagery used in this was gorgeous. I love you
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Mon 20 May 2019, 1:29 pm

Why is Finn a Janitor?, Not understanding it's astronomical/tarot associations I was completely offended. Why does the black guy have to be a janitor??? Star Wars?

The Roman myth refers to Canis Major as Custos Europae, the dog guarding Europa but failing to prevent her abduction by Jupiter in the form of a bull, and as Janitor Lethaeus, "the watchdog"


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What is Pluto? What is Europa? Pluto used to be a planet. It is now a “dwarf planet,” whatever that is. And Europa is one of the moons of Jupiter. Jupiter was, of course, the chief Roman god, who abducted the maiden Europa. Pluto was his brother and the god of the underworld.Astronomy and mythology are so thoroughly intertwined as to be the twin snakes on the caduceus.



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In this one act in TFA, 3 cherubim on the wheel of fortune card are represented. For Kylo, The Death Card ruled by Pluto god of the underworld ( Scorpio/Eagle, The Heirophant under the sign of Taurus the Bull, for Rey, The Strength Card ruled by Leo.) As Kylo says, she is stronger than she knows...

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Post by AhsokaTano on Mon 20 May 2019, 3:07 pm

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That’s interesting what you say about Finn being like the watcher , the one guarding . Watchers in the Bible were angels were they not in Old Testament? Also as a watcher wouldn’t this be like a shepherd role too ? Yesterday I was thinking about JJ Abrams lost series ( which am a big fan of ) and the numbers and the last few who guard the heart of the island in the underworld ( I think the heart has evolved this time to be in a person because this is about the soul but that’s a different point won’t go into because am not 100% sure on it ) in Lost series and oh boy it threw up some interesting revelations :
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One of them is Reyes ? The other Locke ? Rey and kylo ( Locke is another name for Loki lord of the underworld and Rey very similar and meaning the same as Reyes ). In LOST series of course Reyes becomes the guardian of the island and it’s shepherd ( Jack ) who defeats and kills Locke - so if Finn is the shepherd - is he somehow involved in the death of Kylo????!!!

I did think to myself JJ Abrams are you finishing what you started ????

Wait a Minute am editing this because if I recall a couple of things -shepherd and Locke fight each other but it’s Kate Austen( her number is 51 ) who shoots Locke in Lost . That shepherd has a tattoo that says “ he who
Walks among us but is not one of us “ presumably talking about Locke .
This is the interesting bit too - in Lost series - Locke makes “ Ben “ kill Jacob ( Jacob is like the God figure , ruler of the light and guardian of the island ). Once Locke is gone BOTH Reyes and Ben become guardians and protectors of the island in the underworld.

Coincidence with the names ? Foreshadowing ? JJ finishing what he started ? Possibly .

If we are going by this then Finn and Kylo fight , Rose is the Kate Austen equivalent and shoots kylo ( Both Rose and tarot meaning for 51 mean new beginnings , inspiring someone for a higher purpose so Rose is in the position of Kate from Lost series ) and Rey is the guardian of the new world Jedi with Ben as her second in command .
This is interesting because it has a throwback too to mortis in Star Wars clone wars . In that the dark side was trying to leave the planet just like Locke was trying to leave the island in Lost and the God figure in lost ( Jacob ) appointed 6 guardians to
Protect the island . With two remaining Reyes and Ben.

I wonder if they’ll go down a similar route.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Mon 20 May 2019, 6:25 pm

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I never watched Lost, so sorry I can't comment but the name Reyes & Ben are an interesting coincidence. The some of the "watchers" in the old testaments are fallen angels some are not.. I don't think watchers have anything to do with Finn per se, if I did research I am sure I could trace the "watchers" to planets and or constellations. I don't believe that Finn or Rose will kill or harm Kylo in anyway, Kylo's sacrifice and redemption must be internally motivated no?

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Janitor Lethaeus, "the watchdog" not the watchers... Star Constellation Canis Major, whose main star is Sirius, which is related to the Star on the Star Card in Tarot. Which of course is the Man/Aquarius on the Wheel of Fortune Card, and represents Rey & Obi Wan.


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The othe correlations I can find for Finn in Tarot is of course A Fool & his Rose

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The maybe more important from TFA is the blood mark on Finn's helmet at the beginning of TFA, that mark is really similar to the Hebrew Letter Shin, belongs to the judgement card, and we all know that judgement is the end which could relate to Finn's name since Fin in latin means ending.

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Post by AhsokaTano on Tue 21 May 2019, 2:35 am

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So watchdog - could be referencing maybe then Cerberus the watchdog who guards the gates to the underworld?Or gates of heaven ?Finn as a stormtrooper I guess would have had similar role because it’s kind of like a police role( a Jedi in a way or a warrior keeping the peace ) - keeping the law and order , safeguarding , protecting , preserving and safe keeping ? How would it tie to judgement and Rey though ? He’s there at the end ( as his name suggests ) because he makes a decision that changes everything and delivers judgement ? No idea to be honest . I honestly thought Finn was destined to lead a stormtrooper rebellion and lead the resistance but it seems that role went to Poe . Also we don’t know about Finn’s background yet fully or what the first order( which I think is Creator anyway as in supreme divine ruler of universe in Buddhism and this is the war for creation of human souls) did with his head . I know when I read one of the kids novels about Finn and his time in first order he had friends and anyone who stepped out of line was sent for reconditioning . He could really be key to all of it because he has access to first order tech and info .

You would like Lost - it brings up the kind of things we discuss here about myth , tarot etc . It’s interesting that a lot of the actors have appeared in Star Wars and marvel . Dominic Monaghan in particular was amazing as Charlie . The characters were so well written and the acting was incredible. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if JJ was referencing Lost in some way since that too was owned by Disney ( ABC) and it wouldn’t surprise me if all these creators decided to cross over their franchises now ( am ready for it if it happens). I mean marvel /Star Wars / ( Lost being the beginning) as in recent interviews and interviews and at the time Lindelof and JJ Abrams said Lost would Return in some form but not it’s original form . If they are telling the journey of the soul then this would make sense .

It’s crazy stuff I know but it’s never been done . I’ve shared some things in predictions last week which are
Crazy but having watched all the marvel films and especially the Iron man's again where he blatantly says “ 20 years dead and still learning from the creator “ ????? This is just an example . There’s a lot more in there including in captain marvel ( miracle if you think about the word ) which tells you what’s going on here and a particular character Talos who says :

“ safe journey to the beyond . We will finish what you started “.

It’s very clever and subtle and it’s the prestige magician effect( they are all in the underworld and they move on to the next level of heaven /underworld when they are marked with the mark of the eagle )no one is really picking up on it until the final reveal in Rise of Skywalker. Loki is lord of underworld and a trickster, sorceror , magician and so is Odin as the creator god of war and divination . This is what they are trying to do . Deceive the audience. I believe anyway .

On the one hand on the surface they are telling one story but underneath it all they are telling the journey of the soul . That’s how they are going to redefine death . What I believe - and I remember you saying it @spacebaby45678 - that in some way this saga would redefine death .

.And it’s hopeful because the message is this life is not the end . What I think they are going to achieve with these movies if they tie them together is mind blowing .
All the marvel films plus Star Wars tally up to 33 if you count dark Phoenix and Spider-Man in the summer . That is no coincidence. 33 isn’t just the age Christ died on the cross but also enlightenment , peace , clarity , courage and if you follow the angelic part of it - angels assisting you ( avengers ? Knights of Ren). If they are going for this kind of thing then Finn as janitor would be the caretaker , the police , watchdog , taking care of the soul - the Joseph figure in the Jesus and Mary story that looks after Mary ( the name meaning rebellion)and her child /children . We could be getting reylo and Finn Rey but not in way we think .

Anyway just some thoughts- am going to watch endgame tomorrow at the theatre /cinema to see if it tallies with the above or not. I may be barking up the wrong tree of course but it’s fun speculating and theorising. Smile
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 21 May 2019, 7:09 am

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You are so full of information I can't keep up with you Razz Razz

No, Janitor is specifically, and I MEAN SPECIFICALLY, the watchdog who failed to keep Europa from being kidnapped by the Bull. Europa = Rey and the Bull = Kylo. Finn fails to protect Rey and the next scene on starkiller base we the audience finds out what he did with the first order and that was a janitor it is both mythological and makes for a funny moment. However, for people who  (like me) who thought the character was going to be the lead and the next Jedi as advertised it was damn insulting, however as we can see there was a purpose to the madness, so to speak.

Will Finn lead the stormtrooper rebellion as so many had theorized, if Kylo the Supreme Leader of the FO transforms himself, it will be Kylo that liberates the FO no? Not what we were expecting going in but it maybe so. Hopefully, Finn finds family, maybe his sister? He does need an meaning ful end to his arc if it does not involve the force we shall have to wait and see...

The number 33 is interesting since they seem to have adjusted Kylo's age so that by the Rise of Skywalker he will be 33 exactly...

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The meaning of 33 and the reason for it in relation to the Christ is thus... We as humans to be "enlightened like the christ" must raise how lower animal ( Bull/Eagle) energy from the lower regions of the sacral charkra and raise that energy to the skull, "higher consciousness"  Kenobi

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were we become crucified our lower natures dies and we become "woke"... Christ is crucified at Golgatha the place of the skull the end journey of the 33 steps of the spinal ladder.... it is all metaphor and allegory about our own human nature.

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Golgotha. Golgotha, (Aramaic: “Skull”, )also called Calvary, (from Latin calva: “bald head,” or “skull”), skull-shaped hill in Jerusalem, the site of Jesus' Crucifixion. ... The hill of execution

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outside the city walls of Jerusalem, apparently near a road and not far from the sepulchre where Jesus was buried.

Now remember when theorizing that you don't lose hold of who is the Christ figure in the ST.. it is both Rey & Kylo.... NOT Finn.. as the four Cherubim on the Wheel of Fortune Card they each hold the keys to the Christ and play a significant role and that is why the video about Ben Skywalker the Rising Phoenix ending was in fact incorrect by declaring that Ben would be King.... That is a big NO...

It is Rey who is the King, the Lion King.. and Ben who is the sacrificial Bull. However, when Christ returns he returns the the King, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

The phrase appears in the New Testament in Revelation 5:5: "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

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I saw Endgame, good movie but ehh... John Wick 3 VERY GOOD, gods of the underworld and death are huge...

Wick gets the upside down cross branded on his back, like Kylo's saber is the updside down cross:

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Thu 23 May 2019, 7:33 am

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The four stars with their modern names, and their ancient Persian names (in brackets) were:

Aldebaran (Tascheter) – vernal equinox (Watcher of the East) Red Eye of the Bull, Taurus Kylo/Ben Bull on the Wheel of Fortune
Regulus(Venant) – summer solstice (Watcher of the North)  Heart of the Lion,  LeoRey Lion on the Wheel of Fortune
Antares (Satevis) – autumnal equinox (Watcher of the West) Heart of the Scorpion, ScorpioKylo/Ben Eagle/Phoenix on the Wheel
Fomalhaut (Haftorang/Hastorang) – winter solstice (Watcher of the South)  Mouth of the Fish, AquariusRey Man on the Wheel

The four dominant stars have an apparent magnitude–1.5 or brighter.[citation needed] The reason why they are called "Royal" is that they appear to stand aside from the other stars in the sky. The four stars, Aldebaran, Regulus, Antares, Fomalhaut, are the brightest stars in their constellations and among the 25–brightest stars in the night sky. The Persians considered these stars to be the four guardians of the heavens.[3] They marked the seasonal changes and marked the equinoxes and solstices.

Aldebaran watched the Eastern sky and was the dominant star in the Taurus constellation, Regulus watched the North and was the dominant star in the Leo constellation, Antares watched the West and was the alpha star in Scorpio, and Fomalhaut watched the Southern sky and was the brightest star in Piscis Austrinus (sharing the same longitude with the star Sadalmelik which is the predominant star in Aquarius). Aldebaran marked the vernal equinox and Antares marked the autumnal equinox, while Regulus marked the Summer Solstice and Fomalhaut the Winter Solstice. While watching the sky, the dominant star would appear in its season, each having a time of the year when most noticeable. Regulus was seen as the main star because it was in the constellation of Leo, giving it the power of the lion, signifying the strength of kings with large implications.[4]

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The Four Royal stars form the Cross of Christ

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Obi Wan Kenobi, The Lion, Regulus

Iain McCaig, concept art for Obi Wan Kenobi, with the backward sickle on his forehead

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The Constellation of Leo, has a famous backward sickle or Head of the Lion, Hence the term riddle of the sphinx

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The Map to Luke, that was inside Rey's head when Kylo questioned/interrogated her.

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Lion King visual motifs in the Prequels

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Regulus, the regulator I am Obi Wan and I love Rules

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"On Ninevite cylinders Leo is depicted as in fatal conflict with a bull, typifying the victory of light over darkness; "

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Post by AhsokaTano on Thu 23 May 2019, 11:21 am

Amazing ! So through coded mythic stories & religion they are telling us the very story of the universe , the essence of matter and the soul through archetypes ( Star Wars being an example of this ). As the video above says this is a way of explaining the drama as it unfolds in the universe ( in layman’s terms ) in a language we would understand. Geometry seeks to explain this too and tell the story of universe - one way is the patterns in nature ie lotus flowers being symbols for atoms which is the very essence of life . The universe wants us to understand it but sometimes the only way we can understand it is by conveying it in a language or symbolism we would relate to in order to understand it. It’s why the story of the cross keeps repeating itself over and over throughout the ages . Wow! Epic stuff! Smile
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