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Post by special_cases on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 2:44 pm

Well, that's official, we can sleep well. After all interviews it's obvious that they aren't hiding that his redemption is one of the core themes of the movie and won't be last 5 minutes deal. He isn't going to die. The question which stays is how far they will go with Reylo.

I'm sure there will be #gates but overall it looks like 99 % chance that everything will be good for Ben.
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Post by vaderito on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 2:57 pm

good interviews


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Post by 12 Parsnips on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 2:58 pm

@Teo oswald wrote:ohoho

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If this is for real, Poe really is one of them dangerous flyboys  Cool
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So have we heard any "Poe is Rey's dad" rumors yet?
lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Irina de France on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 3:11 pm

What kind of gives me pause personally is how Adam Driver has always been consistent on how Kylo is convinced he's doing the right thing - and honestly, as TV Tropes would say, until TROS comes out, that is probably one of the biggest YMMVs of the trilogy and something TPTB wanted to keep ambiguous on purpose. For sure, it could just be a power trip (which I personally think is unoriginal and too similar to Anakin but who knows), although it personally never really made sense to me he'd go from "my uncle tried to kill me in my sleep" to "I'll join an Imperial remnant army and go against my mom even if the film makes it clear I don't have that big of a grudge against her especially compared to Luke". He seems like the type of guy who'd do s*** more for personal reasons than idelogical ones, unlike Leia or especially Anakin, and LIKE Han - hence why I tend to think there's a missing puzzle piece (I suspect said missing puzzle piece might have to do Palps, but who knows). I could be proven wrong, though, but that's the big thing that gives me pause.

The way I see the Big Throne Room Fight in TLJ is that Rey was morally right, but following her plan would have been Mission Impossible - because no offense, but her plan was to get away with Ben on the MF and... try to save the Resistance by going against the FO fleet, which would be basically the equivalent of a chihuahua going against a freight train? Not to mention that Ben can't really ask to stop the shooting because he's already in hot water due to killing Snoke. His mistake is that while he was somewhat more pragmatic about the whole situation than Rey, he was definitely ruthless about it and should have taken her feelings into account (although Rey going for the lightsaber is exactly similar to how Luke reacted to Ben six years ago). Unlike Rey, he doesn't see the point of an actual support network that goes beyond your grandpa's melted mask or your Skype girlfriend, which again makes sense considering how everyone he's ever known screwed him over at some point, and his mistake was to self-project on Rey.

I don't really see him as power-hungry (at worst, he's scared and insecure and probably believes that being King of the Mountain will keep him safe(r) from "whatever"), nor entitled (at least he busts his *ss to get what he wants, unlike Someone Whose Name Starts With a P who thinks they earned a right to mansplain because his parents were besties with General Organa), but he is very mistrusting and that leads him to being callous with other people (that being Rey). I agree Rey didn't really make matters any easier on her side, which I think is intentional on Rian's part since he obviously wants us to root for Ben (because in that kind of situation, if handled wrong, the audience can easily go "Oh, Kylo is such a big meanie, why didn't he just follow Sweet Little Rey"). But just like Rey has to learn that not everything is black and white and that reacting on an impulse doesn't always work, Ben needs to get rid of the behavior he has picked up due to the toxic atmosphere he's been plunged in for years - because, despite all the love and the kindness in the world, you just can't live in peace without fearing constantly of being screwed over and projecting your insecurities on everyone else.
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Post by PalmettoBlue on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 4:34 pm

@Irina de France I think you make an excellent point about Ben and his motivations. He does seem to act from a personal standpoint (like his father) much of time. Hence, him having "too much of his father's heart."
But I'm also reminded of what Qira said to Han in Solo: "You're one of the good guys."

Yeah.

Ben has too much of his father's heart. And his father was one of the good guys.

I will die on that hill, purple magic laser sword in hand.
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Post by rey09 on Thu 29 Aug 2019, 8:10 pm

Nice, daisy's words screams exactly what many of us were thinking - he was always going to have to do something major to truly show he became good again. I'm sooo ready for his zuko moment!!

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Post by Teo oswald on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 3:30 pm

The Rise of Skywalker will be “less controversial” than Game of Thrones season 8

https://twitter.com/MTVNEWS/status/1167108217543041024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1167108217543041024&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwinteriscoming.net%2F2019%2F08%2F29%2Fdaisy-ridley-compares-the-rise-of-skywalkers-ending-to-game-of-thrones%2F

Speaking with MTV News at D23, Ridley said she knows the commotion that scene caused. She was also asked whether she thinks The Rise of Skywalker will prove as controversial as the end of Game of Thrones. If you forgot, that show ended with Daenerys Targaryen flipping out and slaughtering the women and children of King’s Landing. It’s a high bar for shock.Now, Ridley’s only seen through season 5 of Thrones, but she does say she know what happens — it’s been hard to avoid talk about it these last few months.
I think [the ending of The Rise of Skywalker] will be less controversial. wrote:
And how did Ridley feel donning those black robes and wielding the red lightsaber?
“It honestly felt really cool…There were obviously conversations about how it looked, like genuinely cool, and that like, oh, people will wanna be like, you know, that version of Rey.”

She also commented on whether Kylo Ren was beyond redemption at this point. “Is an apology ever enough?” she asked. “Will actions speak louder than words? Where will we end up?” It sounds like Ridley is either being intentionally misleading, or she’s dropping a sincere clue as to Rey and Kylo’s arc in The Rise of Skywalker.



it is curious how controversial it has become synonymous of  s**t  Laughing

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Post by SanghaRen on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 5:06 pm

Some people do take watching teasers and videos seriously. Indeed the cape is not in the reflection. Is someone right now working really hard to fix this?

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2478964/fans-spot-a-kylo-ren-error-in-the-rise-of-skywalkers-trailer
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Post by Moonlight13 on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 7:46 pm

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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 8:23 pm

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Baby Ben!! (Oh, yeah...cutie baby is getting a redemption arc, and will kiss the powerful warrior goddess Rey when he grows up) I love you cheers
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Post by californiagirl on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 10:50 pm

This was floating around Twitter. Someone who knows literally nothing about SW, more of a Marvel and HP person, watching ANH for the first time. It's mostly caps lock and with typos, and is also the purest SW content I've seen in a while.

https://twitter.com/vibeswithcisco/status/1167603920643903489

This whole fiesta started from a Reylo thread earlier today, she saw clips and other posts and immediately picked up enemies to lovers, and was inspired to watch the entirety of SW to get there.

Her dad has the blu-rays for all the saga films. She claims she's going to do the whole series, a Twitter poll insisted on it. Smile
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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Fri 30 Aug 2019, 11:03 pm

@californiagirl wrote:This was floating around Twitter. Someone who knows literally nothing about SW, more of a Marvel and HP person, watching ANH for the first time. It's mostly caps lock and with typos, and is also the purest SW content I've seen in a while.

https://twitter.com/vibeswithcisco/status/1167603920643903489

This whole fiesta started from a Reylo thread earlier today, she saw clips and other posts and immediately picked up enemies to lovers, and was inspired to watch the entirety of SW to get there.

Her dad has the blu-rays for all the saga films. She claims she's going to do the whole series, a Twitter poll insisted on it. Smile
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This is so adorable! I love it!!!!!

Do you know which Reylo thread started it all? The one mar picked up on? Very Happy Smile
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 6:42 am

Ohtze's Twitter thread on D23 Trailer and Dark Rey is really worth reading

https://twitter.com/Ohtze_O/status/1167219840303562754
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Post by 12 Parsnips on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 6:47 am

@californiagirl wrote:This was floating around Twitter. Someone who knows literally nothing about SW, more of a Marvel and HP person, watching ANH for the first time. It's mostly caps lock and with typos, and is also the purest SW content I've seen in a while.

https://twitter.com/vibeswithcisco/status/1167603920643903489

This whole fiesta started from a Reylo thread earlier today, she saw clips and other posts and immediately picked up enemies to lovers, and was inspired to watch the entirety of SW to get there.

Her dad has the blu-rays for all the saga films. She claims she's going to do the whole series, a Twitter poll insisted on it. Smile
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Her content is GOLD! Thank you for posting. I love you
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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 8:44 am

@12 Parsnips wrote:
@californiagirl wrote:This was floating around Twitter. Someone who knows literally nothing about SW, more of a Marvel and HP person, watching ANH for the first time. It's mostly caps lock and with typos, and is also the purest SW content I've seen in a while.

https://twitter.com/vibeswithcisco/status/1167603920643903489

This whole fiesta started from a Reylo thread earlier today, she saw clips and other posts and immediately picked up enemies to lovers, and was inspired to watch the entirety of SW to get there.

Her dad has the blu-rays for all the saga films. She claims she's going to do the whole series, a Twitter poll insisted on it. Smile
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Her content is GOLD! Thank you for posting. I love you
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I love it!!! I was up late last night, early this morning (refresh, refresh), as she was watching. You could feel the anticipation when she was approaching the ESB "your father" scene. haha Smile Very Happy

To be continued today, I hope! Smile
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Post by 12 Parsnips on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 8:59 am

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There's something so delightful about reliving "the first time" you saw SW! sunny
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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 10:20 am

@12 Parsnips wrote:@SW_Heroine_Journey

There's something so delightful about reliving "the first time" you saw SW! sunny
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There is!

She broke twitter! I love you

I swear though, if Twitter is eyeing her and all of us suspiciously, when there is ugly crap on there...grr....
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Post by SanghaRen on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 11:12 am

@12 Parsnips wrote:@SW_Heroine_Journey

There's something so delightful about reliving "the first time" you saw SW! sunny
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I don’t even remember the first time I saw SW. It feels like the OT was always there.
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Post by 12 Parsnips on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 12:07 pm

@SanghaRen wrote:
@12 Parsnips wrote:@SW_Heroine_Journey

There's something so delightful about reliving "the first time" you saw SW! sunny
@12 Parsnips

I don’t even remember the first time I saw SW. It feels like the OT was always there.
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I don't remember my own reactions or thoughts from so long ago (plus I was a kid, so who knows how my mind was working  Razz  )... It's refreshing to see her shock at the family reveals and her suspicions about what the romance will be. Helps me see it all with new eyes. Smile
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Post by Teo oswald on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 1:35 pm

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cute really cute  Razz

warning this is spoiler Smile
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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 3:00 pm

@Teo oswald wrote:@Moonlight13
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cute really cute  Razz

warning this is spoiler Smile
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Perfect! I am a diva though, I am not certain about Tatooine. Rey truly has a beautiful heart (and Ben is nothing like his grandpa, hating sand), if they settle there. haha Very Happy Smile
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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 3:02 pm

Starwars.com tweeted about her. Very Happy Smile

Reylos...we...did that!!!! The power of Reylo, and DLF knows it too (that Reylos are responsible). YES!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1167879296498593794
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Post by rey09 on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 7:15 pm

@SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:Starwars.com tweeted about her. Very Happy Smile

Reylos...we...did that!!!! The power of Reylo, and DLF knows it too (that Reylos are responsible). YES!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1167879296498593794
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wait who is she...? lol it's a fan account or someone...?

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Post by SW_Heroine_Journey on Sat 31 Aug 2019, 8:26 pm

@rey09 wrote:
@SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:Starwars.com tweeted about her. Very Happy Smile

Reylos...we...did that!!!! The power of Reylo, and DLF knows it too (that Reylos are responsible).  YES!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1167879296498593794
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wait who is she...? lol it's a fan account or someone...?
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I don't know the entire story.

She tweeted this: https://twitter.com/vibeswithcisco/status/1167256896186679303

Reylos found it, including Someone's daughter - I saw this tweet first, actually: https://twitter.com/MarienneMaid/status/1167457719520940032

Someone's daughter has a great rundown on her twitter, in general, but here is all of it (found a tumblr with it) -

https://benperorsolo.tumblr.com/post/187400104613/this-girl-discovering-reylo-for-the-first-time


Dorksideoftheforce got wind of her watching the movies because of Reylo: https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2019/08/31/new-star-wars-fan-live-tweet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

And then, I tweeted Michelle, Matt, everyone practically that I know of - showing everything, because AliaaAloha, click my twitter link, you'll see...lol is me:

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Not long after, Matt and SW Twitter shared it...so I'm responsible, or maybe coincidence with others? lol

I'll be blunt.  I know there are some, including reylos that doubt the sincerity of mar.  In these cynical times, somewhat understandable.  However, now that SW twitter mentioned her, and Reylo is all over the comments - I don't care if she's real, making it up on her own, or if this was internal from inside DLF and voila - it was all due to reylo, illustrates the power of reylo, and that is enough for me to do cartwheels. Very Happy Smile  Innocent, or not...we win!!! Very Happy Personally, my default is to believe her, though because I am adorable that way. Very Happy Smile
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