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Post by nickandnora on Tue 24 Dec 2019, 2:28 pm

Something I want to repeat from other threads and just put here: as much as I don't like Ben's death in a general sense, I do *sort of* appreciate what they might have been trying to do with the two previous times he almost dies. Those were times when things were DONE to him. His own death was a CHOICE he made, and in that sense it works because there is some agency to it in theory. So in that sense I think that was a good choice for the film to make; he *could* have walked away with his life and atoned, but he chose to save the woman he loved instead.

Now of course once you think about it beyond the specifics of that scene it falls apart for a lot of tragic reasons, but I do appreciate the contrast in how he actually went out versus the two other times he almost went out.

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 24 Dec 2019, 2:41 pm

The problem is....
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They seem to think everyone will be quite happy because Rey takes the Skywalker name.

But let's face it....Star Wars as the story of Skywalkers. Don't get me wrong. The Mandalorian is fantastic. But there's.... something missing. And that's the Skywalke
The haters moaned that Rian ruined SW.
But he isn't the one who killed off the last Skywalker and used Palpatine's granddaughter as the new Skywalker.

I disagreed with the haters. I argued that the OT had lived their lives o the full, and left an heir. But they killed off that heir, and destroyed Rey's character.

I honestly don't know if I will ever watch the OT again, not now the last Skywalker is gone.
If they'd wanted Rey to be the Skywalker they should have made her one from the start.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 24 Dec 2019, 2:41 pm

The problem is....
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They seem to think everyone will be quite happy because Rey takes the Skywalker name.

But let's face it....Star Wars as the story of Skywalkers. Don't get me wrong. The Mandalorian is fantastic. But there's.... something missing. And that's the Skywalke
The haters moaned that Rian ruined SW.
But he isn't the one who killed off the last Skywalker and used Palpatine's granddaughter as the new Skywalker.

I disagreed with the haters. I argued that the OT had lived their lives o the full, and left an heir. But they killed off that heir, and destroyed Rey's character.

I honestly don't know if I will ever watch the OT again, not now the last Skywalker is gone.
If they'd wanted Rey to be the Skywalker they should have made her one from the start.
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Post by rey09 on Tue 24 Dec 2019, 3:21 pm

I totally forgot about rey's training part where Kylo messes with it. And you see all those visions. That was actually very very cool!!

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Post by SkyStar on Wed 25 Dec 2019, 3:37 am

Ben and Han for sure. “Dad” was the most emotional scene for me. One of the almost only slow, emotional scenes in the movie. And I loved redeemed Ben, that perfect scene where they look at each other with just a string of a lyrical melody.

Also Hux poor guy. Even if he was killed pointlessly.


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Post by MaddieDove on Wed 25 Dec 2019, 6:39 am

Harrison Ford.
He came and he did his part thoughtfully, with great respect to his, Carrie's and Adam's characters. With his gentle smile, he was generous acting partner to Adam, allowing him to create the believable moment of redemption. For all the accusations of being immensely charismatic actor with wooden acting, my understanding of Ford (my favorite actor for 35 years) is that he has great emotional intelligence and knowledge of his craft. I love him so much.
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Post by Riri on Wed 25 Dec 2019, 7:33 am

Loved all the Ben and Rey scenes obviously. I actually appreciated the Leia and Rey scenes, it just displayed their mother-in-law/daughter-in-law relationship, Leia would have been so happy to learn that Rey fell in love with her son.

Also the Han scene was amazing!

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Post by unicorn on Wed 25 Dec 2019, 10:30 am

The Han - Ben scene above all. When he says "I have no home, she´s gone", it killed me, he was so lost. Sad
That´s one of the few scenes in this movie I could get emotionally invested.
Mostly the Kylo - Rey scenes, but sometimes the stupid and wooden dialoges spoiled it for me.
The whole rescue scene except Ben´s death.
Surprisingly Poe, especially his interaction with Zorri on Kijimi
Snap Wexley biting the dust
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Post by Atenais on Wed 25 Dec 2019, 7:50 pm

@MaddieDove wrote:Harrison Ford.
He came and he did his part thoughtfully, with great respect to his, Carrie's and Adam's characters. With his gentle smile, he was generous acting partner to Adam, allowing him to create the believable moment of redemption. For all the accusations of being immensely charismatic actor with wooden acting, my understanding of Ford (my favorite actor for 35 years) is that he has great emotional intelligence and knowledge of his craft. I love him so much.
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Own, you're so right. Their scene together was amazing, very emotional. Maybe, the only moment that movie took a breath.
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Post by guardienne on Thu 26 Dec 2019, 5:49 am

i think in retrospect it's pretty much everything, it makes no sense as a movie much but good lord it's enjoyable to me.

the shrug finn gives when they are with babu frikk and nobody knows what he's saying.

finn/poe were wonderful together. goddamit disney, allow some queer romance in your movies!!!!

rey finally giving him an answer after 3 movies of beating around the bush.

@reylo1992 wrote: Rey sending Finn away once and for all
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so much that.

i don't understand why the choice was made to constantly have finn worry over her. it's like he hasn't seen the previous movies and hasn't worked out she's very capable.

it's harsh how she does it but good lord kylo ren is definitely her business.


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Post by spacebaby45678 on Fri 27 Dec 2019, 2:00 am

If I shut my brain off.. TROS is a technically good Star Wars movie

Fast paced, snappy dialogue, action packed, beautiful visuals throughout..

First I loved Billy Dee.. his voice has not changed an ounce..
Finn & Poe..
Oscar brought the energy loved Poe in this movie
Harrison Ford
Chewie crying for Leia ( made me cry)
I loved that Leia had a funeral.. and I loved that Poe was there grieving for her.
For Kylo.. Mom is home and if Leia is gone there is no home to go to anymore.. ( I felt that)
Babu Frik
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REG.. I thought he was finally a cut to cast Imperial
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Post by guardienne on Fri 27 Dec 2019, 2:43 pm

@spacebaby45678 wrote:If I shut my brain off.. TROS is a technically good Star Wars movie

Fast paced, snappy dialogue, action packed, beautiful visuals throughout..


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i feel people forget about that. after the weird slo-mo chase of TLJ, it was a breath of fresh air just to feel that excitement again.

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Post by SanghaRen on Fri 27 Dec 2019, 5:40 pm

I hate about 90% of TRoS but with my teeth clenched, I will try to list what I liked.

- All Ben Solo scenes
- Poe in general (he swapped seats with Finn, whom I dislike a lot in TRoS to put it mildly)
- BB-8 in general but then I have to mention that I could have done with less R2-D2 and C3-PO because why do I need all these old droids eating up at the story of the new generation?
- All Rey Ben scenes even if the first ones had expository dialogs. Special mention to when they are fighting over the cargo freighter. I like when they compete with each other. It really feels like a couple having an argument with each one trying to have the last word just because. He even lets her walk away after the explosion. Same in the battle on the death star wreckage. And I liked in that one that he was dominating but giving her a chance every time to stand up and attack. Unfortunately, the battle is then followed by the most unnecessary sequence on Ahch-To for more retconning and nostalgia s***
- Rey’s training but I did not buy Leia training her
- The shot of Ben’s face, eyes filled with tears, while holding Rey is haunting me

I thought I had more, but it was too difficult for me to even enjoy the visual aspects and little good moments.
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Post by Acritiqua on Fri 17 Jan 2020, 11:31 am


  • Kylo on his dark side journey (it should have been more and better, but it's at least there)
  • "I have been every voice you've ever heard inside your head" (if only they'd done something with that)
  • That Kylo isn't trying to kill Rey at the beginning of the movie but wants to ally
  • "Win the war"
  • More immaturity between Kylo and Hux because the stupid helmet is back
  • The stupid KOR (if only there was more to show what morons they are or something of the relationship between them and Kylo)
  • Rey meditating in the jungle, "Be with me"
  • Some of the Rey/Leia stuff (but there's also a lot of cringe in it like "never underestimate a droid")
  • The Pasaana festival
  • How the setting changes when Rey and Kylo connect on Pasaana (I wish it would have changed on both ends)
  • "You wanted to take my hand. Why didn't you?"
  • Poe/Rey lightsaber/flashlight joke (it was silly but I did laugh)
  • Rey healing the sand worm and BB-8 being interested to learn about it
  • Rey destroying Kylo's first TIE
  • Rey using Force lightening and Kylo being affected by this (if only it meant more in the plot)
  • The KOR following them in space (if only it wasn't such a brief cut)
  • 3PO's arc actually added more depth to his character
  • Rey and Kylo connecting on Kijimi and the "I'll come tell you" line
  • Rey in Kylo's room (if only they'd done more with that)
  • Rey causing the destruction of the Vader helmet
  • Kylo being the one who somehow has figured out the Force dyad thing, as the nature of their connection remains a driving question for him
  • Rey finally encountering her own memories about her past, it was nice to see her parents
  • Rey leaping onto the Falcon
  • The creepy interior of the old Death Star
  • Rey's vision of her dark self (without the teeth)
  • Kylo ducking as Rey tries to strike him
  • The violent waves as they are fighting (if only the fight was better)
  • Rey stabbing Kylo and healing him
  • "I did want to take your hand, Ben's hand"
  • Rey stealing Kylo's second TIE
  • Kylo attempting to reconcile with his father and mourning his mother
  • Rey destroying Kylo's second TIE (except I didn't like that she went back to Ahch-to at all, or that she got rid of her only means off, or that the x-wing had to be raised... ugh)
  • "What are you doing?!" exasperated Luke asks
  • Since we have to have the x-wing raised, parking the TIE and x-wing together on Exegol (how cute)
  • Ben Solo everything (wanted more)
  • ALL Rey and Ben interactions (wanted more)
  • When Palpatine calls Rey his grandchild, when he says "the only family you have here is me," when he recognizes that she has made her "new family" because that is how she sees it (there's so little connection between them, this is all there is and I guess it's better than nothing)
  • When Rey is laying there staring at the stars
  • Ben giving his life to revive Rey
  • I didn't mind the melancholy desolate feeling of Rey on Tatooine or that it is only her and BB-8, I don't mind Luke and Leia in the sky
  • Rey's new lightsaber
  • Some things about the Force dyad - I definitely liked that it was built up even further and that through it Rey and Kylo can do even more (it's a great follow through from how after they connect in TLJ there is water from Ahch-to on his hand). The Force dyad also can contain the huge jump in Force powers within its bounds
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