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Post by snufkin on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:04 pm

@Rimfaxe96 wrote:
@SkyStar wrote:It seems that these "leakers" don't know what to do with Kylo. Either he is a one-dimensional background baddie being all evil and defeated Professor Fate style. Or they make him pull 2.0 Han with his mother or Luke. Aka using their emotions to crush his family.

Show them, Rian, show them the power of a good writing!
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(Minor off-topic incoming!)

Speaking of good writing - Ian Doescher, author of the Shakespeare's version books of the Star Wars movies just released this on his Facebook page:

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I own the other 6 and can only recommend them to anyone - and I can't wait for possible reylo clues in this new chapter! (release due in October) Love
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@Rimfaxe96 wrote:
@SkyStar wrote:It seems that these "leakers" don't know what to do with Kylo. Either he is a one-dimensional background baddie being all evil and defeated Professor Fate style. Or they make him pull 2.0 Han with his mother or Luke. Aka using their emotions to crush his family.

Show them, Rian, show them the power of a good writing!
@SkyStar

(Minor off-topic incoming!)

Speaking of good writing - Ian Doescher, author of the Shakespeare's version books of the Star Wars movies just released this on his Facebook page:

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I own the other 6 and can only recommend them to anyone - and I can't wait for possible reylo clues in this new chapter! (release due in October) Love
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Post by Sacrebleu on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:14 pm

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:Act II "spoiler dump" is up from the guy from the other day. Are we ready to start filing these under the "crack" spoiler thread yet?  Laughing

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/67j5w4/spoiler_dump_act_ii/

Act II

As it begins to rain on Ahch-to, Rey prepares to face her test. Luke has instructed her to journey to the far side of the island. Luke gives her parting wisdom while talking to the birds in between. Before she departs, she smiles at Chewbacca playing with the birds.

Finn is being put through physical tests. He remarks that he feels stronger and faster than he did before his fight with Ren. Holdo and Poe have a discussion on his chances of being recognized. Poe still isn't a hundred percent on board with sending Finn on this mission. He wants to go. Holdo argues with him about his importance to the overall Resistance. Poe insists Finn not go on the mission alone and Holdo suggests he take Rose, who has clearly taken a liking to Finn. Holdo tells Poe they've got more pressing matters, she has a fleet of cruisers but the Resistance is currently low on one man fighters.

Kylo Ren marches down a hallway. All we see are his boots and cape. A cell door opens and he finds himself face to face with his mother. His helmet is on. He starts off by addressing her as "General". Leia is saddened by this. She calls him Ben and he tells her not to. He begs her to tell him where Luke is. She won't. He tries to extract it from her mind as tears roll down her face. He can't do it. He leaves the cell and tells Hux this one will take time. Kylo returns to a room brilliantly white with a chrome wall and removes his helmet. A human like droid administers treatment before he is submerged in bacta.

Rey comes to a clearing where the rocky cliffs make a horse shoe around her. The rain has lightened up. She sits and waits for something to happen. This is where Luke told her to go. One of the birds lands by her. It seems oddly friendly. Rey is amused and reaches out to touch it but the bird flies off. The ocean below her begins to stir. Rey stands up hurriedly. Lightning strikes the sea and a beast rises out of the waves. Rey frantically looks for a weapon but can find nothing. The beast roars and tries to strike her but misses. Rey is evading the beast but something has caught its attention. A nest of three baby birds have started crying and the beast has moved his attention towards them. Rey initially starts to run away but turns back and attempts to save the baby birds. As she carries them in her arms she braces for the beast to bite but the beast is suspended. Rey has stopped it with an outstretched hand. Though somewhat surprised at first, Rey pushes the beast off the cliff onto the rocky serfs below. She returns to Luke with the baby birds in hand. Luke tells her her training will begin in the morning.

Kylo Ren marches down a hallway. This time we see him from behind. The cell again opens. Leia is less saddened this time and more resolved. She wants to talk about Han. Kylo has none of it. He again tries to extract the map from Leia but can not. He enters Snoke's chambers and asks for guidance. Snoke places a hand on Kylo Ren's shoulder and tells him Leia can resist his power because she's not seeing her son. Her son would break her. Kylo Ren will not.

Poe bids Finn and Rose fairwell and tells Finn that BB8 insisted he come along. They board a small shuttle and travel to Canto Bight. Upon arrival they are greeted warmly as their aliases have passed. An official welcomes them to Canto Bight and tells them they've been expected. Finn, Rose, and BB8 are taken to a dining hall where a man stands up and welcomes them, saying his name is Gannis Ducain.

Luke consults the ghost of Yoda in secrecy. Yoda assures him he'll be right there along the way to help him train this girl. Luke speaks to Rey about the force and tells her every time she's used it so far it's been for violence, but the force is most at its balance when there is peace. He teaches her to control her force impulses, to use the force in a more gentle way.

Gannis dismisses his guards and immediately tells Finn he's the mole and the coordinates to Snoke's location, and tells the trio he's reported them as Resistance spies and to run now. Finn has the idea to steal an animal from one of the circus attractions and they ride it down to the sea, where they steal a boat to get back to their shuttle while being pursued by CBPD (Canto Bight Police Department)(yes that's a joke. Security chases them)

Kylo Ren enters the chamber again. Leia lashes out at him verbally. She demeans him, calls him a coward, and tells him her son died a long time ago. Kylo tries but fails to extract the map from his mother yet again. She once again calls him a coward for having to hide behind a mask to speak with her. He leaves the room. He removes his mask and destroys it. Hux is present and tells Kylo he can hand over interrogation to someone else. Kylo re-enters the chamber. Leia is in awe but heartbroken to see her son again. Kylo coldly extracts the map from her.

Hux is waiting for Ren. Ren tells Hux to assemble his Knights.

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Lemme see if I have this straight-there are THREE separate scenes of Kylo trying to interrogate Leia in her cell, in various degrees of masked, maskless, bacta infused, and a little more bacta infused.  The same scene, three times.  After failing to obtain map goes to Snoke for guidance.  Gee, where have I seen that before?  Yeah, riveting filmmaking there. Eh bien
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Post by Xylo Ren on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:19 pm

@SoloSideCousin

Actual leaked footage from Episode VIII

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oh wait I've seen this movie already

is it bad I'd still watch this
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Post by IoJovi on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:23 pm

@Xylo Ren I could watch that for hours. Whoever wrote this may actually be onto something...
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Post by Sacrebleu on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:23 pm

I just got THREE separate notifications that @Iojovi liked my last post. I hope she took off her mask for the last one!
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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 5:51 pm

After two interrogations over THE MAP!11!!1! in The Force Awakens, one of which involved Kylo removing his mask, we now have three brand new interrogations for that same information that span two acts of a film and progress in degrees of maskedness. So that's over 3 1/2 hours over two films devoted to map interrogations + some intense caped walking to fill in the gaps. Meanwhile, Poe argues with a few people while Finn decides to take the first random girl suggested to him on a mission for no better reason than she likes him.

The pacing of this work of art is comparable to a snail that has been stepped on. Every scene is exactly the same and by the time we get to the epicness that I'm sure Act III of this masterpiece will be I couldn't count the number of plot or character progressing events that have actually happened on one hand. Luke still hasn't really decided to train Rey, Kylo just got the map and Finn just snatched his admirer to accompany him on a mission.

I honestly couldn't even read most of this. It was killing my brain-cells. There have been much more believable fanfictions on Reddit. This one has to go along with mechanical spine Finn in terms of LOLworthiness.
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Post by IoJovi on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:04 pm

@Sacrebleu wrote:I just got THREE separate notifications that @Iojovi liked my last post. I hope she took off her mask for the last one!
@Sacrebleu

Here's another... Laughing
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:19 pm

@Xylo Ren wrote:@SoloSideCousin

Actual leaked footage from Episode VIII

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oh wait I've seen this movie already

is it bad I'd still watch this
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Lol!!!! So awesome!!!! Kylo in a hallway does have its own magic, no denying that. Very Happy
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Post by Reylo Lemon on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:21 pm

@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Xylo Ren wrote:@SoloSideCousin

Actual leaked footage from Episode VIII

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oh wait I've seen this movie already

is it bad I'd still watch this
@Xylo Ren

Lol!!!! So awesome!!!! Kylo in a hallway does have its own magic, no denying that. Very Happy
@SoloSideCousin

AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA lol!
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Post by ReyofLightSide on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:21 pm

lmao, I'd like to see Kylo Ren coldly address the woman who bore him in agony as "General" and make it out alive Laughing
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:24 pm

Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.

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Post by IoJovi on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:25 pm

@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
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lol! lol! lol!

If we had a post of the day, this is it.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:25 pm

@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
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You've just given me a new headcanon moment. I really want to hear Luke or Leia call Kylo "Benji"!
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Post by ReyofLightSide on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:29 pm

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
@MeadowofAshes

You've just given me a new headcanon moment. I really want to hear Luke or Leia call Kylo "Benji"!
@ISeeAnIsland

Leia yelling as she is taken to her cell by Stormtroopers: "You know, Ben slept with the lights on until he was fourteen! Dark side, my a$$."
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Post by rey09 on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:35 pm

@Xylo Ren wrote:@SoloSideCousin

Actual leaked footage from Episode VIII

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oh wait I've seen this movie already

is it bad I'd still watch this
@Xylo Ren OMG YES this strut is sooo sexy woooof  Very Happy Very Happy so powerful loll

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Post by MeadowofAshes on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:48 pm

@ReyofLightSide wrote:
@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
@MeadowofAshes

You've just given me a new headcanon moment. I really want to hear Luke or Leia call Kylo "Benji"!
@ISeeAnIsland

Leia yelling as she is taken to her cell by Stormtroopers: "You know, Ben slept with the lights on until he was fourteen! Dark side, my a$$."
@ReyofLightSide

If you Google "Leia Kylo" this is the first image that comes up.
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The fandom definitely knows Leia! lol! 3

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Post by Moonjump05 on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 6:54 pm

Yeah, the first part of the spoiler was ok- but this second part is trash.
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Post by Helix on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 7:05 pm

If Kylo did any of that, Leia would just take him over her knee and spank him.
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Post by ReyofLightSide on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 7:09 pm

In my head, Ben's full name is Benjamin Chewbacca Organa Solo.
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 7:20 pm

I'm in tears! I love that people have a sense of humor here Razz Benjamin, haha!
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Post by Helix on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 8:07 pm

@ReyofLightSide wrote:In my head, Ben's full name is Benjamin Chewbacca Organa Solo.
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We all know he can totally speak Shyriiwook as a second language. Razz

and that the trilogy would've been over fast if Leia had been the one to go out on that bridge instead of Han. Laughing

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Post by snufkin on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 8:30 pm

@MeadowofAshes wrote:
@ReyofLightSide wrote:
@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
@MeadowofAshes

You've just given me a new headcanon moment. I really want to hear Luke or Leia call Kylo "Benji"!
@ISeeAnIsland

Leia yelling as she is taken to her cell by Stormtroopers: "You know, Ben slept with the lights on until he was fourteen! Dark side, my a$$."
@ReyofLightSide

If you Google "Leia Kylo" this is the first image that comes up.
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The fandom definitely knows Leia! :lol!: 3
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I am just sorry that we will never get the chance to see the two of them together in IX. Either he's the same with Leia that he is with Rey, hence the self loathing for being foolish and weak or we'd be treated to the two of them acting out the Albert Brooks-Debbie Reynolds relationship from Mother.



Also every time I read a comment about how Rey "should" be Luke's daughter because it'd be feminist for a female character to carry the legacy, it's like uh, did you miss that part in the trailer about how the legacy for the ST is from a female character? I've yet to see an Internet hot take that has figured out that the Reywalker theories or arguing that Rey "has" to be the legacy child because otherwise it's not feminist have an awful lot of internalized sexism going on about how Luke gets privileged over Leia as the central hero/legacy bearer.

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Post by Helix on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:27 pm

The more I think about it, the more I realize how awful things must've been for Pre-TFA Leia. Han was out doing illegal stuff again with his hairy bro, Luke was on Mid-Life Crisis Island with no contact and Kylo was with the First Order. Leia was putting all her efforts into the Resistance and that might've helped take her mind off it a bit, but she was still looking for Luke. I can imagine all of that was weighing down on her.
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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 9:53 pm

@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@Xylo Ren wrote:That's the worst thing I've ever read.

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OMG it is!!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

I mean, WTF, Kylo spends the movie walking in freaking hallways?!!! And of course, "sinister and in red on the poster Luke" is a pure Jedi saint.  This whole thing was so boring and so stupid that it was an actually an effort to finish reading it.  KK would throw a script like this right in the garbage, lol.  I mean she sooooo needed Adam Driver so he could walk around in the hall and chitchat with Snoke and Hux? LOL!!!!
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I'm so sorry for bringing this up back, LOL! Just wanted to say that they wouldn't need to hire Adam at all for this, just put some random in Kylo's costume and insert Driver's pre-recorded interrogation dialogue and clips from TFA over and over. Like cut back and forth between new Leia scenes and scenes from TFA. It's the frugal option, after all. Saving that $$$, and there are already so many good options, most notably *I can take whatever I want* and *recoils from mind invasion mother's scolding*.


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Post by Darth_Awakened on Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:34 am

@ReyofLightSide wrote:
@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@MeadowofAshes wrote:Kylo: We meet again, General.

Leia: Cut the crap, Benjamin.
@MeadowofAshes

You've just given me a new headcanon moment. I really want to hear Luke or Leia call Kylo "Benji"!
@ISeeAnIsland

Leia yelling as she is taken to her cell by Stormtroopers: "You know, Ben slept with the lights on until he was fourteen! Dark side, my a$$."
@ReyofLightSide

LOL

This is definitely IN character.
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