The Last Jedi and the Shakespeare Novelizations
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special_cases- Force Ghost
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What a difference there is when a Reylo gets their hands on the novelization! My feels!!
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@Kessel
Oh man, didn't even think about it like that. My heeeeeeart.

Also, I notice we're back at it again with the heavy humanizing of Kylo and suggesting his childhood was sort of depressing in the novels. Gee, I wonder why they have a vested interest in doing that. Must be because he's pure evil.
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@Darth_Awakened



Now I want to see Ben piloting the MF before the end of this trilogy more than ever. I NEED it!
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Also Snoke was twisting his mind with dark thoughts before he was even born(Aftermath and Bloodlines). No wonder he felt like a monster. Give the boy a happy ending! Come on JJ!
Riri- Jedi Master
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Oh, I will die while reading that book that's for sure!
I took the whole week when the novelization will be released off- I'm such a nerd!
Anyone daring to disturb me while reading better run for their lives!



I took the whole week when the novelization will be released off- I'm such a nerd!
Anyone daring to disturb me while reading better run for their lives!



Night Huntress- Force Ghost
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I need to go to sleep haha. But leeeeaks!


This book is out to kill me:



This book is out to kill me:

ZioRen- Force Ghost
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Oh God Leia still had hope for Ben the beginning, i wonder what caused her to lose hope 

Riri- Jedi Master
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ZioRen- Force Ghost
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...didn't we already guessed most of this things even before TLJ was released? That's just how well we understand this character. I'm smug I know 

Night Huntress- Force Ghost
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POOR BEN. So, his family issues were worst than I expected, it was not like "everything was happy and healthy but suddenly he turned"
Even if I bought my Kindle copy, I need more Reylo info

Even if I bought my Kindle copy, I need more Reylo info

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@Night Huntress wrote:the fact that Ben would've stopped the missile makes me wonder if he really knew Leia was alive when leading the battle on Crait.
I highly doubt it to be honest.![]()
Maybe the novelization will give us a hint about that? I mean wherever he thought his mother survived that attack on the Raddus.
@Night Huntress wouldn’t he have felt her presence (in the Crait hideout) though?
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@Dar-ren19 I don't think Kylo felt anything except rage on Crait. They intentionally left it vague - Leia on Crait and Rey on Falcon.
But we shall see, novel and script can make it clear.
But we shall see, novel and script can make it clear.
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@special_cases true. I was just thinking of Rey on the MF...
That girl on twitter posted this earlier. I’m on my iPhone so not sure if this is ok to post but lmao!
https://mobile.twitter.com/vulptexx/status/964671297392398337/video/1
That girl on twitter posted this earlier. I’m on my iPhone so not sure if this is ok to post but lmao!
https://mobile.twitter.com/vulptexx/status/964671297392398337/video/1
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Reddit user
"Poe was banned from inter-fleet transport duties shortly before the mutiny. He was also banned from the bridge. This may be in the film, not sure.
Poe believes Holdo has tricks up her sleeve, but does not show them.
Rose engine cloaking tech is crucial for the final evacuation, until DJ's betrayal.
Luke has donned the robes and lit the torch before several times and failed each time. Rey arrived after just such an attempt.
Luke and R2 searched for ancient lore for many years (like Battlefront 2 and the legends of LS book).
At one point the chase has endured for 12 hours.
Kylo smiles at cramped up Rey in the escape pod.
Kylo says saber is his, Rey says it called to her in the castle.
Rey says she saw the shape of Kylo's future when they touched hands before, and it is solid and clear.
That he will not bow before Snoke and will turn. (in the film?)
Kylo saw her past instead.
Just before the elevator door opens Rey realizes Kylo's churning emotions are not only about himself, but also about her.
Rey is fixated on Snoke's eyes, like the hole on Ahch-To they look like the promise secrets and power.
FN-ME2187 scene.
Snoke muses about visions of the future in general and their interpretation. Be careful or die. He learned this when he was young and the galaxy was different. At an old age he knows how much is left out in visions.
Snoke has left legions of uncounted dead adversaries that underestimated him.
Snoke was an unexpected leader. The Imperials did not foresee that he would be the one. Not Rax, Sloane, the political fanatic Ormes Apolin or Brendol Hux. As potential leaders they were all co-opted, sidelined or destroyed. Only Armitage Hux (our general Hux) was left, who is a total tool.
The rise of the First Order was mostly improvisation, not a grand plan.
The Emperor's Contingency plan was engineered to destroy and bring forth a rebirth, stronger than before.
For decades there were shipyards, laboratories and storehouses in the Unknown Regions.
Snoke's knowledge saved the First Order from demise (potential threats).
Sidious knew of and Snoke learned of truths about the Force in the Unknown Regions that lay there waiting to be rediscovered.
Snoke appreciated that Luke went on a quest for truth before recreating a failing order such as the Jedi Order.
Anakin and Luke were instruments of the Cosmic Force.
Luke connected (as people) with Snoke to gain knowledge.
Snoke does not need Rey in this time of victory anymore, but she would be a good apprentice/tool in the past.
Leia and Holdo's youth is addressed. Holdo outranks Leia.
Snoke does not believe in Kylo anymore, he is a mix of light and dark, but unstable, will rethink his future after victory.
Holdo gets the hyperspace idea because the alert meant to remind the crew of Poe hyperspace coordinates that he entered after the mutiny. Now later in the chase the entry point is behind the FO fleet.
Snoke noticed Kylo's surpise about the Force bond reveal, but then senses a calm and balanced Kylo. Kylo's biggest flaw has been restored. Snoke thinks Kylo can only be great if he uses his power to steer his own destiny."
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KYLO SMILES??? AND HIS CHURNING EMOTIONS FOR REY!!!
"Poe was banned from inter-fleet transport duties shortly before the mutiny. He was also banned from the bridge. This may be in the film, not sure.
Poe believes Holdo has tricks up her sleeve, but does not show them.
Rose engine cloaking tech is crucial for the final evacuation, until DJ's betrayal.
Luke has donned the robes and lit the torch before several times and failed each time. Rey arrived after just such an attempt.
Luke and R2 searched for ancient lore for many years (like Battlefront 2 and the legends of LS book).
At one point the chase has endured for 12 hours.
Kylo smiles at cramped up Rey in the escape pod.
Kylo says saber is his, Rey says it called to her in the castle.
Rey says she saw the shape of Kylo's future when they touched hands before, and it is solid and clear.
That he will not bow before Snoke and will turn. (in the film?)
Kylo saw her past instead.
Just before the elevator door opens Rey realizes Kylo's churning emotions are not only about himself, but also about her.
Rey is fixated on Snoke's eyes, like the hole on Ahch-To they look like the promise secrets and power.
FN-ME2187 scene.
Snoke muses about visions of the future in general and their interpretation. Be careful or die. He learned this when he was young and the galaxy was different. At an old age he knows how much is left out in visions.
Snoke has left legions of uncounted dead adversaries that underestimated him.
Snoke was an unexpected leader. The Imperials did not foresee that he would be the one. Not Rax, Sloane, the political fanatic Ormes Apolin or Brendol Hux. As potential leaders they were all co-opted, sidelined or destroyed. Only Armitage Hux (our general Hux) was left, who is a total tool.
The rise of the First Order was mostly improvisation, not a grand plan.
The Emperor's Contingency plan was engineered to destroy and bring forth a rebirth, stronger than before.
For decades there were shipyards, laboratories and storehouses in the Unknown Regions.
Snoke's knowledge saved the First Order from demise (potential threats).
Sidious knew of and Snoke learned of truths about the Force in the Unknown Regions that lay there waiting to be rediscovered.
Snoke appreciated that Luke went on a quest for truth before recreating a failing order such as the Jedi Order.
Anakin and Luke were instruments of the Cosmic Force.
Luke connected (as people) with Snoke to gain knowledge.
Snoke does not need Rey in this time of victory anymore, but she would be a good apprentice/tool in the past.
Leia and Holdo's youth is addressed. Holdo outranks Leia.
Snoke does not believe in Kylo anymore, he is a mix of light and dark, but unstable, will rethink his future after victory.
Holdo gets the hyperspace idea because the alert meant to remind the crew of Poe hyperspace coordinates that he entered after the mutiny. Now later in the chase the entry point is behind the FO fleet.
Snoke noticed Kylo's surpise about the Force bond reveal, but then senses a calm and balanced Kylo. Kylo's biggest flaw has been restored. Snoke thinks Kylo can only be great if he uses his power to steer his own destiny."
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KYLO SMILES??? AND HIS CHURNING EMOTIONS FOR REY!!!
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Very very interesting thoughts from Snoke about Kylo
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Oh gosh I need to see a Kylo smile for reals in IX. And churning emotions about Rey !!!!
Sure I’m interested in the other points but I know where my priorities are. Mulling it all over
EDIT Snoke doesn’t believe in Kylo any more - it’s a good thing Kylo took action when he did. And his calmness after Snokes reveal about the bond also says when faced with imminent danger he can be cool as a cucumber
Sure I’m interested in the other points but I know where my priorities are. Mulling it all over
EDIT Snoke doesn’t believe in Kylo any more - it’s a good thing Kylo took action when he did. And his calmness after Snokes reveal about the bond also says when faced with imminent danger he can be cool as a cucumber
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THE MIGHTY KYLO REN!
Glad he chopped that golden raisin Snoke in half!
Glad he chopped that golden raisin Snoke in half!
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The novel sounds dope as hell. I don't know if I can handle the emotions it will bring to me reading it.
BABY BEN....WE GOT A SCENE WITH A FAKE BOOBED OUT DINOSAUR AND LUKE NURSING FROM IT BUT WE DID NOT GET A SCENE OF BABY BEN.
UNACCEPTABLE.
AND KYLO SMILED AT REY...SMILED
HIS CHURNING EMOTIONS OF CONFLICT AS HE BROUGHT HER TO SNOKE
KYLO WANTED TO BE A PILOT LIKE HIS DAD
THEY THOUGHT HE WAS A MONSTER STOP
PERVERT SNOKE TOUCHING KYLO
OMG
*WAILS* RIAN....WHY....WHY WAS THIS NOT ALL IN THE MOVIE
BABY BEN....WE GOT A SCENE WITH A FAKE BOOBED OUT DINOSAUR AND LUKE NURSING FROM IT BUT WE DID NOT GET A SCENE OF BABY BEN.
UNACCEPTABLE.
AND KYLO SMILED AT REY...SMILED
HIS CHURNING EMOTIONS OF CONFLICT AS HE BROUGHT HER TO SNOKE
KYLO WANTED TO BE A PILOT LIKE HIS DAD
THEY THOUGHT HE WAS A MONSTER STOP
PERVERT SNOKE TOUCHING KYLO
OMG
*WAILS* RIAN....WHY....WHY WAS THIS NOT ALL IN THE MOVIE

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@Xylo Ren Agreed! Wish some of those things were in the movie. 

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@Dar-ren19@Dar-ren19 wrote:@Night Huntress wrote:the fact that Ben would've stopped the missile makes me wonder if he really knew Leia was alive when leading the battle on Crait.
I highly doubt it to be honest.![]()
Maybe the novelization will give us a hint about that? I mean wherever he thought his mother survived that attack on the Raddus.
@Night Huntress wouldn’t he have felt her presence (in the Crait hideout) though?
I don't think so- he doesn't felt Luke was a projection either... he was blinded by rage. At least that's my interpretation.
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@Night Huntress@Night Huntress wrote:...didn't we already guessed most of this things even before TLJ was released? That's just how well we understand this character. I'm smug I know
omg yea for two years this is exactly what we imagined- he wanted to be pilot but was shipped off to luke and felt abandoned by them, esp his father. We have every damn right to be smug. F*** the fanboys and their lunatic interpretations LOL.
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@vaderito@vaderito wrote:Just remember, IX will not be based on anything from novelization and deleted scenes. Only TLJ movie. Added novelization scenes and deleted scenes are for hard-core fans, not GA. So toddler Ben, Luke dreaming of Camie, etc are irrelevant. They may make us feel better or worse but they are not essential.
Pity in my opinion. They wasted time on poosistance and pootiny, and Leia puling a Michael Jordan but they couldn't hire a child actor to do a flashback of Ben?
Wasted potential.
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@Xylo Ren I have to agree. This makes me wish JJ and Lucasfilm had stuck to their guns and killed off Poe in TFA like they wanted to. Not only would we have had more room for Ben's backstory and his relationship with his parents, but also Finn wouldn't have been so sidelined. I wouldn't be surprised if Finn was the one who was originally supposed to go up the ranks in the Resistance with Leia's guidance. Honestly, one of my issues with TLJ was the editing, and the feeling that Rian tried to fit in too much stuff in the movie. TLJ felt like an overstuffed sausage at times lol.
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What the blazes is going on with Reddit novelisation posts - I keep seeing ‘removed’ like 4 times over for the final part ?!
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