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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:41 pm

The two last tracks are killing me. Kylo's finished leitmotif is insane. No words.

Listen to track #22. Omg, I'm crying.


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Post by MindAndMagic on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:41 pm

Track 22 is beautiful. It starts off tragically (I wonder if it's during the climactic battle and it's about Ben), but then ends on a hopeful note. Track 23 sounds incredibly tender and romantic, I think it fits the two of them. I want to believe there's hope so badly! Please! Very Happy

EDIT: Not that we have the titles: "healing wounds", "join me", "coming together" sounds good! Very Happy


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Post by SkyStar on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:43 pm

Ok, I am sobbing, I am going to be a mess at the movie.
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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:44 pm

@MindAndMagic wrote:I have no idea what happens during any of these because there are no titles, but track 22 is beautiful. It starts off tragically (I wonder if it's during the climactic battle and it's about Ben), but then ends on a hopeful note. Track 23 sounds incredible tender and romantic, I think it fits the two of them. I want to believe there's hope so badly! Please! Very Happy
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Right? Track #22 destroyed me, I don't even need to watch a movie. So so beautiful.
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Post by KiraRen2015 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:45 pm

@MindAndMagic I think it sounds really sad! I think I'm crying!
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:45 pm

Don’t know where it’s from but Shocked

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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:46 pm

I don't want to listen to all of the tracks Laughing , I'm like:
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lol! lol! lol!
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Post by ZioRen on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:48 pm

Yeesh, well if those track names are real then they don't not match the leaks. Am I going to have to mourn for you, Ben Solo?
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Post by KiraRen2015 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm

@ZioRen That's exactly what I thought. And I'm sorry but I'm feeling crushed.
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Post by SkyStar on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:50 pm

Lol is healing wounds what I think it is? Haha well.
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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:52 pm

Track #20 Seeing Sights is something else. Wow.
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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:52 pm

Well i give up.. she approaches the throne then sees her parents? I think Kylo/Ben survives it is a long song with that rises at the end...

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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:55 pm

OMG. “Farewell” was killing me, but... it’s very triumphant at the end?


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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:56 pm

Well, Reylo theme will be forever "Coming together". Sorry, no other romantic themes can beat this title.
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Post by rawpowah on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:57 pm

I'm surprised they released the full thing.

Track 22 seems split into two parts to me. Part 1 sounds like Ben's death and part 2 sounds like a Resistance victory celebration.

Track 23 sounds like a matured version of Rey's solo theme.

Welp.
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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:04 pm

Leia's death is in end of track #13 Final Duel. And part of #Healing Wounds, her theme is there too.
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Post by AcrosstheStars on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm

@special_cases wrote: Shocked @bashfulblueeyes3 I don't *believe* him but I believe he is not lying about main plot. He wants reframe the main story because this story exists in his head... No, I don't believe that Ben dies, but I always admit that there is possibility.

This possibility is thin with the story set ups presented here. It's highlighted that Leia had a fear that her baby will die, then she dies and her kid dies too? Yeah, makes sense! Either Leia's fear removed or Leia's fear here is absolutely brilliant way to justify Ben's ressurection for viewers. Leia goes into the Force but the Force brings her kid back to life.
Once we got that leak from MSW (?) saying she was afraid her unborn child would die, that made me think he had to live. I know I knock JJ at times, but especially after being criticized for TFA ripping off ANH, why in the world would he go a repeat Anakin’s arc verbatim (selffulfilling prophecy; redemption; death). He said he took risks. I want to think I’m not being naive and seeing what I want to believe, but that was my gut impression.

So JP swore in to the pit, never seen again, don’t hold your breath unless it’s changed with reshoots. Welp. This wasn’t reshoots, Adam’s too thin. So what else is JP missing? Does his update say if Ben is seen as a ghost? I’m afraid to look at it all in case he’s closer to right than wrong. I don’t want to be totally spoiled.

Eek the soundtrack is out too? I better not listen to that. Shocked
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Post by Atenais on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:14 pm

TOO MUCH INFORMATION, what's happening???

First of all:

weird fanfic moment

This person is SO bitter. Because, of course, people only kiss or only want to kiss in fanfics, in real life people don't do this kind of thing. LOL Obviously they know more and they're only sharing this right now, because they know that the leaks gate is about to open, so they want to stay relevant (as if).

Maybe, three is the charm, but, again, three is too much. Anyway I believe things will make sense when we see the movie.

And last, but not least, track 22 destroyed me. (I'm preparing my heart, I don't know what to think, but I always knew his death was a big possibility).
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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:17 pm

@AcrosstheStars There is no Ben Ghost in update. We can't be sure that this is real ending. But the ending did changed and the final minute too.

But never to be seen is forgotten. The source lied about that (my speculation).

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:18 pm

I must say.. I love everything I have heard so far..This is a beautiful soundtrack
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Post by special_cases on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:20 pm

@rawpowah wrote:I'm surprised they released the full thing.

Track 22 seems split into two parts to me. Part 1 sounds like Ben's death and part 2 sounds like a Resistance victory celebration.

Track 23 sounds like a matured version of Rey's solo theme.

Welp.
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I do agree that A New Home is closer to something like solo Rey mature theme.

We need music experts to analyze two last tracks, especially end of Farewell.
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Post by Gemini on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:20 pm

@special_cases wrote:Track #20 Seeing Sights is something else. Wow.
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I am guessing this is where kylo/ben may return with the second saber (coming together) rey or he sees a force back with that saber. (Seeing sights)

3 minutes long. That's a vision/ghosts


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Post by giaciak2 on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:22 pm

Farewell - to Ben? And the word - A new home - for Rey alone is horrible. My heart will be broken forever. Regardless of whether it will be a good movie or not. I'm tired of sad films ... If Ben dies I still don't see where the hope is.

I'm sorry.


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Post by Gemini on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:29 pm

Got it.

I think Seeing sights is kylo..seeing a force back

Listen to the track after seeing sights that's Ben f****ing running back to her...RESCUE


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Post by AcrosstheStars on Tue 10 Dec 2019, 3:30 pm

@special_cases wrote:@AcrosstheStars There is no Ben Ghost in update. We can't be sure that this is real ending. But the ending did changed and the final minute too.

But never to be seen is forgotten. The source lied about that (my speculation).

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No ghost makes zero sense if he’s dead for sure. Hmm. 

So the source was a Finnrey? If that’s right, I can definitely see a motive for not spoiling the kiss and definitely a motive for making people think Ben died in the end. Not saying just because someone is on another “team” they’re out to get everyone, that’s not true at all. I believe most people are inherently decent human beings. But just things like describing it as “weird fanfic”, don’t hold your breath, etc. sort of says it all.

All this reads to me as some kind of wacky power trip.
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